Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QFTAx-0000gX-Jc; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:47 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf3270461fxm.16 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=I9/lrXSLqNzC+AZKmJ54gT1AqzpXOOQ3ZtrzeljteCY=; b=i99cXUOfdlQLLLRYp5DELyPTCUdqURHJ8oI1GA2o85ijeRfRrxtna9ooekHx4b895p ONDA8CemGjcfa/Zpapt7a8CNdKc9I0OOGz0/OBFv0r1m2g0km8c9goXdQKtGXAdLP7bk JJAmQgigmCWNCgM/Idd8hLBbFZrQS2vVEb60o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=yan1VXMBL9FGeTPi/aSiUx/dAGclYPOD41mr4E6xxK5G6f0KRII2K+Hp0bxKGNHlU5 Vntqk4LP/QVGOqYThsqVwdK8ADu+a+6U94kXmPvk/XrBaibDPCmRzyKFAGO4DFYIgc4U St7uNKUL1JUfKBhQslhDLVJ8Ym/P/LRYs0J/8= Received: by 10.223.55.213 with SMTP id v21mr825032fag.45.1304004632235; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.21 with SMTP id n21ls717322bkd.1.gmail; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.113.14 with SMTP id y14mr2922bkp.11.1304004630904; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.113.14 with SMTP id y14mr2921bkp.11.1304004630862; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f48.google.com (mail-bw0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e15si350507bke.1.2011.04.28.08.30.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.48; Received: by mail-bw0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 8so4016474bwz.35 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.199 with SMTP id p7mr3384355bkw.114.1304004630657; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.191.80 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7e5bdd6d-4bb8-415e-b50f-6a0d3e5454b4@e8g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:30:30 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Why is CAhA a tense/modal? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175def8ccbbcaa04a1fc3cce Content-Length: 3779 --0015175def8ccbbcaa04a1fc3cce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:45 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> >>> It's easier to keep I and YOU than forever distinguish between I as >>> speaker and YOU as listener. >>> >> >> Except that I /is/ /always/ the person speaking, and you /is/ /always/ the >> person listening. >> >> But the person speaking isn't always I (he is to himself, but that's why > we need I), nor is the person listening always YOU. > > stevo > Yes, I am, and yes, you are, because the person "I" refers to is /ALWAYS/ the person saying it, and the person "you" refers to is /ALWAYS/ the person "I" is addressing. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0015175def8ccbbcaa04a1fc3cce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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