Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QJz4e-0005lh-4n; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:55 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf339167qyk.16 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=5jgtAoAiAOYE54ZaRdyCBl7fi0AlKco1IwrkF64LAHw=; b=NLzMuuoRXFNH34/CmcmKKAnKmUaQc89yVP+7KCCyq2w20V4hrIWgbddbwmAlczDn2C dfBvLt2lZW6umXXK/JXS9S556ziW0xJml5cOxp+dtZdLQfvJ8E58Twj0E+gqsAYAiqF8 sjO8t2ABE3ZWDLq2PAlhsd7vMe+YZf+vwV5aM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=wYzpqPOQBToVQ47xp81VE3XMhPBWCJtPwwGoYMirvVklc+hnuNfqJjes16O0jJKOSl D6KhX3iak+uSJU9R5LGZgS1AKF/UOQexYTlpUGx9Nw4/6zvDHRNpzfAi7aQI6rX8+xHH CDwoMTSd5u4b19rOYQoYCjkIne715YNxh61wU= Received: by 10.229.14.206 with SMTP id h14mr970454qca.47.1305080562261; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.47.70 with SMTP id m6ls1656580qcf.3.gmail; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.105.138 with SMTP id t10mr801695qco.13.1305080561683; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.105.138 with SMTP id t10mr801694qco.13.1305080561668; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w19si1855119qco.11.2011.05.10.19.22.40; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=2lq4+qobG88tJFkiXmxSLStFAwyj+PriBwHB+7DDebs= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=_-GDJ1jFZrYA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=DuWUNWpVOCBz_FKDG3MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:47237] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 56/9F-17273-FE2F9CD4; Wed, 11 May 2011 02:22:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733FF14026 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 22:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: ci lo gerku vs lo ci gerku Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:22:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201105102222.36820.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 733 On Tuesday 10 May 2011 19:49:03 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > You seem to be saying that "se nomei" expresses a relationship between > the empty set and some elements that don't exist. It expresses the relationship between the empty set and the empty mass. Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.