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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Just to double check, about {da} and quantifiers
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2011/5/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:51 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > {ro da} implies {su'o da}?
>
> Except in the extremely rare and rather pointless case of an empty
> universe, yes.
>

That exception is the key point of question:

Specifically, in the restricted case,
(assuming there are no cat-dogs in the universe) what does {ro da poi ke'a
gerku je mlatu cu broda} mean? Is it false, true, meaningless? I'm aware
that this is related to the "lo no" discussion, but I think this is slightl=
y
more basic and answerable.

>
> > i.e. {broda ro da na gi'a broda su'o da}
> >
> > Tangentially, is there an accepted way of asking "...doesn't it?" That
> is,
> > making a statement and asking for confirmation.
>
> I use "ie pei" or  "pe'i pei".
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:51 PM, .arpis. &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:rpglover64%2Bjbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; {ro da} implies {su&#39;o da}?<br>
<br>
</div>Except in the extremely rare and rather pointless case of an empty<br=
>
universe, yes.<br></blockquote><div><br>That exception is the key point of =
question:<br><br>Specifically, in the restricted case,<br>(assuming there a=
re no cat-dogs in the universe) what does {ro da poi ke&#39;a gerku je mlat=
u cu broda} mean? Is it false, true, meaningless? I&#39;m aware that this i=
s related to the &quot;lo no&quot; discussion, but I think this is slightly=
 more basic and answerable.<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; i.e. {broda ro da na gi&#39;a broda su&#39;o da}<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Tangentially, is there an accepted way of asking &quot;...doesn&#39;t =
it?&quot; That is,<br>
&gt; making a statement and asking for confirmation.<br>
<br>
</div>I use &quot;ie pei&quot; or =A0&quot;pe&#39;i pei&quot;.<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
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