Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qc5Yz-0003pK-4O; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:57:09 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf1686232gxk.16 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:56:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oenMWuRlPo5iRzGPQdVYMeXP92hZajL2m62F/WY0W1M=; b=49SiJ5vRkeubod6mCIWB37G/EwF5aXgpvGFnslQl3edZ+ARJCCkCzS3U1tPB3JEPlS JpKbzWoy+OjIsxYjbdEsBpBNLyJb0Arsenc+obS9lWQuOqfW8RTRwqMS0VsmaejsDemb j7x7zA8HNPUDrLlWUHiMb+Uy4da4AevdUG4NA= Received: by 10.150.115.14 with SMTP id n14mr204674ybc.13.1309395411415; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.70.8 with SMTP id s8ls944748yba.1.gmail; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.156.68 with SMTP id l44mr828236yhk.82.1309395410290; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.135.8 with SMTP id m8msybn; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:55:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.20.38 with SMTP id 38mr176238agt.24.1309384520276; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by g16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:55:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1665dd93-53b2-4442-8b6d-ab80aabdcbda@b21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <9454fde3-7042-4c60-82d9-776f51b07b5c@t38g2000prj.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <8ecaf8d7-810f-41e7-b4cc-9208b696f6ce@g16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {le} and {lo} From: Ben Foppa To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: eatingstaples@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 800 Actually, upon further consideration, would it be fair to say that {le} references an object which had a unique identity before construction of the sentence? For instance, if I say "So yesterday, this dog walked in front of a car", I would use {lo}, but if I said "So yesterday, this one dog I know walked in front of a car", would I use {le}, since I'm referencing a dog which has an identity separate from other dogs inside my mind? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.