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This makes sense, true. However, it's consequently stronger than simply
having it in mind in a sense: you also describe it as being such, whether or
not it actually is such.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Erm...{le broda} is not {zo'e noi ke'a broda}. It's {zo'e noi mi skicu
> ke'a
> > do lo ka ce'u broda}. Technically the formal definition has nothing to do
> > with "having in mind", which sorta confuses me still. Is there some
> > historical undercurrent here that I don't know about?
>
> I'm not sure if that definition has been formally accepted, but it
> does make sense to me, and it does say that you have to have the
> referent in mind.  To "skicu" something is to hold it in mind while
> attempting to describe it to an audience.  Each time you "skicu" it,
> you think of some attribute it has, and then convey that attribute to
> the audience: "It's red" or "it's thiiiiiiiiis big".  It doesn't make
> sense to "skicu" unless you have a particular referent in mind,
> something you can think about and consider various properties of.
>
> mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o
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This makes sense, true. However, it&#39;s consequently stronger than simply=
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Stela Selckiku <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
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<div class=3D"im">On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Ian Johnson &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com">blindbravado@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt; Erm...{le broda} is not {zo&#39;e noi ke&#39;a broda}. It&#39;s {zo&#3=
9;e noi mi skicu ke&#39;a<br>
&gt; do lo ka ce&#39;u broda}. Technically the formal definition has nothin=
g to do<br>
&gt; with &quot;having in mind&quot;, which sorta confuses me still. Is the=
re some<br>
&gt; historical undercurrent here that I don&#39;t know about?<br>
<br>
</div>I&#39;m not sure if that definition has been formally accepted, but i=
t<br>
does make sense to me, and it does say that you have to have the<br>
referent in mind. =A0To &quot;skicu&quot; something is to hold it in mind w=
hile<br>
attempting to describe it to an audience. =A0Each time you &quot;skicu&quot=
; it,<br>
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the audience: &quot;It&#39;s red&quot; or &quot;it&#39;s thiiiiiiiiis big&q=
uot;. =A0It doesn&#39;t make<br>
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something you can think about and consider various properties of.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
mi&#39;e la stela selckiku mu&#39;o<br>
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