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ki'esai luk

On Jun 3, 10:58=A0pm, Luke Bergen <lukeaber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You may find this thread to be of interest:http://www.lojban.org/eo/lists=
/lojban-beginners/msg08889.html
> On Jun 3, 2011 4:31 PM, "ianek" <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:> When I was le=
arning from LFB (over a year ago), I stumbled upon a note
> > in
>
> http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less10connect...>=
 (near the bottom of the page):
> >> The very astute reader will have noted that 'afterwards' should have b=
een
>
> .i pu bo; the analogy with ba ku won out, though. (See The Complete Lojba=
n
> Language, Chapter 10.12.) The rest of you may ponder what on Earth I'm
> talking about, but need not lose sleep over it.
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> > Of coure I had noticed the inconsistency and the explanation hadn't
> > satisfied me. I didn't check the referenced chapter 10.12 (was I
> > afraid of CLL? I dunno). Now I've looked there and found nothing on
> > the subject. The relevant chapters are 9.7 and 10.16, but the
> > difference isn't explained there. So why the difference?
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> > {broda i MODAL bo brode}, as far as I understand, is translated
> > roughly to {broda MODAL lo su'u brode kei}, but
> > {broda i TENSE bo brode}, as stated in CLL 10.16, gets translated to
> > {broda i TENSE la'edi'u brode}, which is the opposite.
> > Why?
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> > mu'o mi'e ianek
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