Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8iR-00035v-RU; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:54:08 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf4027056qyk.16 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:53:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pzf4xNLbFHUL6FgcIR3/dum9Duopsfi2vnSz6vyUgWw=; b=eUEcTD4GrRSQPJ4zQxfGRlbV7cBkgNCUMVLICqflJpWyeO0aeNb1lg74it3tTz+87o i4JDFY5lszEX36rq8MYhOsv8YYp2xlDwXVCw60asfaYv3P/jhH8H/IlhuCdfPJSz6HBi uTB7xonVyLipIMFxJoKQhx3nU0uvqJcO6PA3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bs9klgA/oNms5whbkYjdlXRRI1ugDrNudg1rBMrv5NLxVZ2AWumnHWxv+azVqQPv8r ayTJagF6PrvIietCxuKZDNbux0oY35nOgkEwZLkMeFxvnHeCskBbcA5jnrH5HbfsLO8Y x5Ii1jM2yndwLpd5fYtZbb3eYzVY5o87JjZLo= Received: by 10.224.199.9 with SMTP id eq9mr310760qab.50.1307739233752; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.181.131 with SMTP id by3ls459277qab.3.gmail; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.200.197 with SMTP id ex5mr974755qab.17.1307739233336; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.96.6 with SMTP id f6msqan; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.164 with SMTP id dt4mr896245vdb.11.1307736007756; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.164 with SMTP id dt4mr896244vdb.11.1307736007745; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a10si2582992vdt.0.2011.06.10.13.00.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.45; Received: by qwj8 with SMTP id 8so2430875qwj.18 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.2.143 with SMTP id 15mr1906709qcj.47.1307736007409; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.27.202 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <86c95876-7288-4de3-bab5-461a0c550910@h7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Glass half full From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1155 2011/6/10 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:18 PM, ianek wrote: >> I wondered how to say "a glass half full" in Lojban. I came up with >> {lo kabri be lo kabrylai be li pimu}, I'm not sure if it's right. Of >> course it could be some tanru like {xadba culno kabri}, though it >> sound not quite right and is as ambiguous as all tanru. >> So now I wonder how to say "a glass half empty" avoiding tanru >> ambiguity? > > I suggest: > > lo kabri poi klani li pi mu lo ka culno > lo kabri poi klani li pi mu lo ka kunti Couldn't that mean a half of a collection of cups in a shelf or box? Isn't the klani1 supposed to be the quantity of what's in the cup (lo se kabri) rather than of the cup itself (lo kabri)? mu'o mi'e tijlan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.