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On Saturday 09 July 2011 10:29:08 =C1lvaro Vallejo wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> There is something I do not understand regarding the lujvo bacrynandu:
> - bacru has only one rafsi: ba'u. Why then bacr is used for the lujvo?

I'm not sure who coined the word, but it's "bacrynandu" in the Internationa=
l=20
Collection of Tonguetwisters. "ba'urnandu" is equally valid and is the=20
canonical form (determined by a scoring algorithm which doesn't always matc=
h=20
people's esthetics - I prefer "tolcliva" and "terpreti" to "tolyli'a"=20
and "teryrei").

> - On the other hand, are we talking about a difficult utterance or a
> difficulty which is an utterance? I would think a tongue-twister is a
> type of utterance (a difficult one, indeed), and then bacru should be
> the tertau of this lujvo: nadyba'u, maybe?

"nadba'u" (no "y" needed) would be someone who has difficulty uttering. lo=
=20
bacru is an utterer; lo se nandu is an utterance.

Pierre
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The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

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