Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ql772-0008Lw-Ea; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:32 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf5061433fxd.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=KjwYIvgoSDJ7OPNRHsBTpAsheV15hsY1u7QbW3/SnLE=; b=sj6DugqUZHPHyEheuTIBnxB8cvS//fN+7WVfhBy4q9sKgNoIcmbCBTK8fz/RlTwLkN JsnZH1Vqw57ZEuBYlp5I7khXdnCd2r46RnVvvQ1RtsTC1bpnICqw99fw1s0M0osqwL0J YvLPzArRS9FJ3Qpg6pb85l7iPmr+uOBqjf0GM= Received: by 10.223.78.138 with SMTP id l10mr335306fak.24.1311546318750; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.11.11 with SMTP id r11ls1714761bkr.1.gmail; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.88 with SMTP id l24mr507375bku.19.1311546317352; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.88 with SMTP id l24mr507374bku.19.1311546317330; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k16si1733425fah.0.2011.07.24.15.25.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so7397590fxe.31 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.37.66 with SMTP id td2mr1036189bkb.296.1311546315639; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.70.196 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:25:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Coining a lujvo: "evidence" From: ".arpis." To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52c5c73400d2404a8d82c24 Content-Length: 2415 --bcaec52c5c73400d2404a8d82c24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In the extremely likely event that there already exists such a lujvo, I'd like to know it, and what I should have done to find it. When I think of the relationship described by "evidence", it comes to something like "x1(du'u) is evidence/suggests that x2 (du'u) is true [under epistemology x3]". There is no human component; unless you are in a quantum mechanical framework, observation does not change the fact. Evidence is weaker than proof or logical implication. (While writing this, I realize that {nibyti'i} almost means what I want, but I'm not sure if {lo nibyti'i} can be used to mean "evidence"). -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec52c5c73400d2404a8d82c24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the extremely likely event that there already exists such a lujvo, I'= ;d like to know it, and what I should have done to find it.

When I t= hink of the relationship described by "evidence", it comes to som= ething like "x1(du'u) is evidence/suggests that x2 (du'u) is t= rue [under epistemology x3]".

There is no human component; unless you are in a quantum mechanical fra= mework, observation does not change the fact.

Evidence is weaker tha= n proof or logical implication.

(While writing this, I realize that = {nibyti'i} almost means what I want, but I'm not sure if {lo nibyti= 'i} can be used to mean "evidence").

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