Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QmEzM-00077k-MB; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:18 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf807928fxd.16 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=05Ry8O6b9R8Fla4ng+UwCTzQ5Sky6GP5RakkhJVWIIg=; b=jjl/kPduzDu5ElqPMeg8hK5h1fjQ8AgPMdCJzyREy9gRSpEfGcVqtocFso/+e6WTEB awy0Rx3OxYuXphgGeqqlmiMLV98FepwXXZ9ti8s8L0kkmo6rPs6r1TSeNFA9zWDL8VvJ uQ1KBgrt7VSbmEa5RuoV++aAz4aQjy7uhBA1M= Received: by 10.223.97.132 with SMTP id l4mr140425fan.47.1311814923080; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.106.37 with SMTP id v37ls4042407wbo.1.gmail; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.152.129 with SMTP id g1mr41848wbw.7.1311814922155; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.152.129 with SMTP id g1mr41847wbw.7.1311814922132; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com (mail-ww0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si783518wbp.2.2011.07.27.18.02.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.46; Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so1942239wwf.15 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.18 with SMTP id m18mr7101730wbs.91.1311814921943; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.11.13 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.11.13 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:02:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Coining a lujvo: "evidence" From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44cae6efac404a916b6cb Content-Length: 3841 --001485f44cae6efac404a916b6cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh... now that I read the jbovlaski entry for stidi I am completely in agreement. For some reason I sometimes think of lo selstidi as being a suggested action and sometimes as a fact that x1 suggests to be true. Probably malgli as you say. So do we have a word that means "xyxipa rinka lo nu ko'a krici lo du'u xyxire no'u fatci cu jetnu"? On Jul 27, 2011 8:56 PM, "Stela Selckiku" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >> I think suggestion is a very important concept to the definition of >> "evidence". > > Yes, "suggestion" is important, but not {stidi}. A stidi is someone > who's suggesting a course of action to an audience. > > mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001485f44cae6efac404a916b6cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oh... now that I read the jbovlaski entry for stidi I am completely in a= greement.=A0 For some reason I sometimes think of lo selstidi as being a su= ggested action and sometimes as a fact that x1 suggests to be true.=A0 Prob= ably malgli as you say.

So do we have a word that means "xyxipa rinka lo nu ko'a krici = lo du'u xyxire no'u fatci cu jetnu"?

On Jul 27, 2011 8:56 PM, "Stela Selckiku&qu= ot; <selckiku@gmail.com> wr= ote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Luke Ber= gen <lukeabergen@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
>>
>> I think suggestion is a very important concept to the = definition of
>> "evidence".
>
> Yes, "= ;suggestion" is important, but not {stidi}. A stidi is someone
> who's suggesting a course of action to an audience.
>
&g= t; mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku
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