Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QlM4y-0001hE-Jy; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:36 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf5599727fxd.16 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5R8jtlDMmw0lwCoTqP/YhRsp62QT4H7OO0rR9yW5P2A=; b=uwW8vcZWdZ2N227uV7QrKt4BQyBBUyVOy+r+iV6cd1jSYfcotVlc71pMEYGj2UaQyP P/sNChh8hOK0o/i4o3BkMZipQKq+wMWTcRvEkVK94tKwUMg9+bUbYRPnerEKhqFnGE6W HghUnKpe31VZJkfzGcAkoMNIWJNLNVqxGC7tQ= Received: by 10.223.101.144 with SMTP id c16mr850252fao.6.1311603850800; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.24.148 with SMTP id x20ls374112eex.4.gmail; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.133 with SMTP id p5mr255460eef.25.1311603849514; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.133 with SMTP id p5mr255459eef.25.1311603849482; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e13si2162133eea.2.2011.07.25.07.24.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so3455553ewy.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.215 with SMTP id f23mr1396871bkc.140.1311603849194; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.70.196 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Coining a lujvo: "evidence" From: ".arpis." To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325555cc6846e0504a8e59182 Content-Length: 5009 --000325555cc6846e0504a8e59182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But what if I want to say something like "That an apple falls is evidence that Newton is right." (How would one call "the law of universal gravitation" in lojban?) {lo du'u lo plise ku na'o farlu kei ku nibyti'i lo du'u la .niutyn. jai drani} doesn't seem right to me; it's not evident (which I take to be more or less synonymous with obvious) that an apple falling indicates that Newton is right. {lo du'u lo plise ku na'o farlu kei ku zilvelji'i lo du'u la .niutyn. jai drani kei lo termu'eske} seems to be closer to what is meant when "evidence" is used. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:25 AM, .arpis. > wrote: > > (While writing this, I realize that {nibyti'i} almost means what I want, > but > > I'm not sure if {lo nibyti'i} can be used to mean "evidence"). > > I would go with {nibyti'i} as it is already in jbovlaste. > For example I would use it as follows: > > {lo du'u do nelci ku se nibyti'i} -> it is evident that you like it! > > {lo nu do citka ku nibyti'i lo du'u do nelci} -> Since you're eating > it, you surely like it! > > remod > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000325555cc6846e0504a8e59182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But what if I want to say something like "That an apple falls is evide= nce that Newton is right."

(How would one call "the law of= universal gravitation" in lojban?)

{lo du'u lo plise ku na= 'o farlu kei ku nibyti'i lo du'u la .niutyn. jai drani} doesn&#= 39;t seem right to me; it's not evident (which I take to be more or les= s synonymous with obvious) that an apple falling indicates that Newton is r= ight.

{lo du'u lo plise ku na'o farlu kei ku zilvelji'i lo du'= ;u la .niutyn. jai drani kei lo termu'eske} seems to be closer to what = is meant when "evidence" is used.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:25 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> w= rote:
> (While writing this, I realize that {nibyti'i} almost means what I= want, but
> I'm not sure if {lo nibyti'i} can be used to mean "eviden= ce").

I would go with {nibyti'i} as it is already in jbovlaste.
For example I would use it as follows:

{lo du'u do nelci ku se nibyti'i} -> it is evident that you like= it!

{lo nu do citka ku nibyti'i lo du'u do nelci} -> Since you'r= e eating
it, you surely like it!

remod

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