Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnuah-0002jX-Vt; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:42 -0700 Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31sf6755901qyk.16 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AoR2vkOftORjHQPdr1XHvVgVtgvbYOCMzflt6rDSJm8=; b=C8ZTmKtZhGxFS8bI1r9Br/iRqLWb/jhbCTKEwMYUIMtJ0G+3yB5tHUOl2fzW1Tp00+ pmqMiJO8yaGxPSLjlvEFLVnhmSEMoWSyMSPEmQonIoUq/4fA4tRYVLebFa8qW6W0I1gF CvWIodNRg25anICCnYZRBFCKXYr7PAwWwy7gQ= Received: by 10.229.80.1 with SMTP id r1mr557714qck.17.1312213170258; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.38.213 with SMTP id c21ls754916qae.6.gmail; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.210.202 with SMTP id gl10mr23526qab.49.1312213169580; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dc3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110628 Linux Mint/10 (Julia) Firefox/3.6.18,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <27587c4e-d074-4afb-b700-27c9baf6e53d@dc3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Typesetting From: paul_faehrbrorn To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: pa.fae@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1904 Hi, shouldn't the following be possible? - User types 'plain' Lojban text in some text editor - Computer analyses text structure by running jbofi'e or so - Computer creates *TeX file, using detected text structure - Computer runs *TeX - User rejoices over beautifully typeset Lojban text I began musing about this after I discovered R L Powell's HTML version of 'Alice' (http://lojban.org/~rlpowell/alis/alis.html). I find the typographical conventions in that document very tasteful. I then tried to automatically convert the HTML to LaTeX, which spectacularly failed. For a brief moment I thought about doing a screen dump and adding the LaTeX formatting commands by hand, but I soon realised how idiotic it would be to put a quotation mark next to *every* lu/li'u and nowhere else, to italicise *every* word following a ba'e and nothing else, to start a new paragraph at *every* ni'o/no'i=97 and nowhere else (and, of course, many things more). This seems in principle so trivial a task that it should be done automatically. I'm under the impression that a Lojban text wears its 'structure' on its face. Lojban, as it were, kind of typesets itself, doesn't it? (I'm obviously talking about 'functional typography' [I just made that up], not things like font selection or fancily shaped paragraphs [of which there happens to be one in 'Alice', btw.].) Has by chance anyone set up something like that? -pf PS: Please note that I'm not saying that Lojban should be written anything different from how it is written now. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.