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I believe any sound in the range of [r] is allowed. Trilled r, the French r,
a tap as in many dialects of English, et cetera. Just as long as it is an r
of some sort and, as you say, doesn't involve sounding like a completely
different word than what you want to say.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Viral Lamb <jms1992@comcast.net> wrote:

> While trying to get back into learning lojban, I came across something
> I thought was rather important. When saying the word "lerfu" (which
> means letter I think) I noticed that it sounds like I'm saying
> "leirfu" (even though that isn't a word xD ).
>
> I pronounce the letter "r" in lojban the same way I would in english,
> and I found that's the root of the problem. When pronouncing the "e"
> and "r" together, I can't help but say it like "leirfu". Using a
> "trilled r" such as in spanish or esperanto, the "e" sound doesn't
> turn into a "ei" sound.
>
> Is there any other way to pronounce the "r" in lojban, cuz I think I
> can trill my "r"s most of the time, but I'm certainly not perfect.
> Trying to say "hamstron" the way the guy in this video says it (1:15)
> is certainly a challenge, yet good for practice.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INCr1bV8kGk
>
> Is this a big problem, or am I making too big a fuss?
>
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I believe any sound in the range of [r] is allowed. Trilled r, the French r=
, a tap as in many dialects of English, et cetera. Just as long as it is an=
 r of some sort and, as you say, doesn&#39;t involve sounding like a comple=
tely different word than what you want to say.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Viral Lamb =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jms1992@comcast.net">jms1992@comcas=
t.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
While trying to get back into learning lojban, I came across something<br>
I thought was rather important. When saying the word &quot;lerfu&quot; (whi=
ch<br>
means letter I think) I noticed that it sounds like I&#39;m saying<br>
&quot;leirfu&quot; (even though that isn&#39;t a word xD ).<br>
<br>
I pronounce the letter &quot;r&quot; in lojban the same way I would in engl=
ish,<br>
and I found that&#39;s the root of the problem. When pronouncing the &quot;=
e&quot;<br>
and &quot;r&quot; together, I can&#39;t help but say it like &quot;leirfu&q=
uot;. Using a<br>
&quot;trilled r&quot; such as in spanish or esperanto, the &quot;e&quot; so=
und doesn&#39;t<br>
turn into a &quot;ei&quot; sound.<br>
<br>
Is there any other way to pronounce the &quot;r&quot; in lojban, cuz I thin=
k I<br>
can trill my &quot;r&quot;s most of the time, but I&#39;m certainly not per=
fect.<br>
Trying to say &quot;hamstron&quot; the way the guy in this video says it (1=
:15)<br>
is certainly a challenge, yet good for practice. <a href=3D"http://www.yout=
ube.com/watch?v=3DINCr1bV8kGk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/wat=
ch?v=3DINCr1bV8kGk</a><br>
<br>
Is this a big problem, or am I making too big a fuss?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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