Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo8qz-0004Tn-6G; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:28 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf9229239gxk.16 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zpX7a5kQe5xR4espXjbINg1cZyztWnWhellKPi/WgD8=; b=v2nLxSvrDFkcGwyVI9+RyDxqeL0sERvrkpZL/EE1g7RcRNsD9nmxH3EGBW1ohyCdhD r12mZam0gWWE2M5F+yPEWHAstsCTyWbASX2zrMJfK4P8S+f8u0jeozdKiMucYP+aclXS X8TNEPEH9zJq3NCykPKDZ4uIqA1WY5lvhCvSI= Received: by 10.236.153.7 with SMTP id e7mr579117yhk.19.1312267995579; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with SMTP id e5ls5018919ibk.0.gmail; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.149.68 with SMTP id u4mr1645188icv.81.1312267994591; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.149.68 with SMTP id u4mr1645187icv.81.1312267994573; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w7si5828624icv.6.2011.08.01.23.53.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.169; Received: by mail-iy0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 14so10649016iyb.14 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.127.142 with SMTP id g14mr3294272ibs.163.1312267993181; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.68 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <27587c4e-d074-4afb-b700-27c9baf6e53d@dc3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 00:53:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Typesetting From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369c8c5a956cb504a98033d9 Content-Length: 6363 --0016369c8c5a956cb504a98033d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe we went over this subject extensively when the Alice translator contacted us about his intention to publish the Lojban version in his translation collection. I'm sure someone with the desire could find that thread. I think it's about a year old now. The subject line for the discussion that generated the typography debate is "[lojban] la .alis." On my gmail there are at least three threads with this title, so there is probably some slogging to do. I would not be surprised if the results of the debate were posted on the tiki somewhere, thus negating the need to slog. Someone else may have that information. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > > On Monday, August 1, 2011, paul_faehrbrorn wrote: > > Hi, > > > > shouldn't the following be possible? > > [...] to put a quotation mark next to > > > *every* lu/li'u and nowhere else, to italicise *every* word following > > a ba'e and nothing else, to start a new paragraph at *every* ni'o/no'i= =97 > > and nowhere else (and, of course, many things more). This seems in > > principle so trivial a task that it should be done automatically. > > I think the hardest part would be to define all those rules. Have you put > any more thoughts on them? > > What i think is important is to identify all those structures that are > relevant for typesetting the text and then a separate set of rules could > specify how each structure should be rendered. > > One could parse the output of jbofihe or camxes to create the HTML or TeX > version. > > If you already have an initial set of rules, I'could try to whip up a > prototype script for doing the conversion. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016369c8c5a956cb504a98033d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe we went over this subject extensively when the Alice translator c= ontacted us about his intention to publish the Lojban version in his transl= ation collection. I'm sure someone with the desire could find that thre= ad. I think it's about a year old now.

The subject line for the discussion that generated the typography debat= e is "[lojban] la .alis." On my gmail there are at least three th= reads with this title, so there is probably some slogging to do.

I would not be surprised if the results of the debate were posted on the ti= ki somewhere, thus negating the need to slog. Someone else may have that in= formation.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:29 P= M, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:


On Monday, August 1, 2011, paul_faehrbrorn <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi= ,
>
> shouldn't the following be possible?
> [...] to put a quotation mark next to

> *every* lu/li'u and nowhere else, to italicise *every* word follow= ing
> a ba'e and nothing else, to start a new paragraph at *every= * ni'o/no'i=97
> and nowhere else (and, of course, many thing= s more). This seems in
> principle so trivial a task that it should be done automatically.
<= br>
I think the hardest part would be to define all those rules. Have = you put any more thoughts on them?

What i think is important is to i= dentify all those structures that are relevant for typesetting the text and= then a separate set of rules could specify how each structure should be re= ndered.

One could parse the output of jbofihe or camxes to create the HTML or T= eX version.

If you already have an initial set of rules, I'could= try to whip up a prototype script for doing the conversion.

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