Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QsdxY-0005gx-3h; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:50 -0700 Received: by vxh2 with SMTP id 2sf2794859vxh.16 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B5oIUtZKCg2vjI6fPu8pPe+cLajyPvVXY0co/5P7aTU=; b=digzM0k09PHCre6jB4Ywp2CnKlbwfp9YPUVuLOxVIG6pB0bZl+fY6Hz2P77szztbMG 9OiOoFDCBTmEZP2iopD71ThjOJdNiyjxV03rLKw5sdJc3gPmI8UHeffAvOgwl0F+I7zB iYpBLmo4n16hhJ1qN/AYkTE0xQPcxxP+bjOT8= Received: by 10.220.117.68 with SMTP id p4mr402141vcq.10.1313340879425; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.221.0.18 with SMTP id nk18ls3517178vcb.4.gmail; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr17894vcl.48.1313340878917; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by a31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101206 Ubuntu/10.10 (maverick) Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <89cb8bf4-0f2a-4688-9411-03031f2e95d2@a31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] to be From: jongausib To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 664 How do you say: "To be or not to be, that is the question" in lojban. I haven't found any gismu to describe the act of just being (like in a taoistic sense). To exist is not quite the same, since it says more about the fact that you exist and not the experience (or act) of just existing/ being. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.