Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyJ6Q-0007Pi-F7; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:24 -0700 Received: by mail-yi0-f61.google.com with SMTP id 36sf9033428yie.16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tS8THVbTUrMV6FC48J9Q6Aa9hGKO0Lph9B4kbSUvRCc=; b=Em2YUl1a5Pg2RExz1QyjYnrCZ/EA1y3q/t7zJb5MQcmw6sIIlHPC6u/yDTc2dk5926 YBH1bDwyjUuIJRdRdik7/zUDVQ+igOs4rb7d8OvA7bU8NFqIeiKovkGExRVWF2JnLYNd p4yFqIOsIG/xVsdgEjgY0LbtDItDXiACSp0Lw= Received: by 10.91.83.14 with SMTP id k14mr1015164agl.53.1314690677631; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.4.23 with SMTP id 23ls6018956agd.3.gmail; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.74 with SMTP id f50mr25220596yhn.1.1314690676888; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.138.5 with SMTP id q5msybn; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:35:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.96.39 with SMTP id y39mr473605wfl.67.1314668110313; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by w22g2000prj.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <41f3563c-23b4-4c7b-96fc-8b5fcd11033a@z1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <144c6f02-30c0-4257-88ab-5f2951c2fa48@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <2fe2465c-df10-499c-9698-3eb60d4bc1a3@m35g2000prl.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <7cb3a191-39a7-4a24-aeea-9f1affccc823@w22g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r" From: Viral Lamb To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: jms1992@comcast.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1447 Damn, why do I have such a big delay between my post and when it shows up? By the time my post shows up, someone else has said what I was saying. On Aug 29, 6:29=A0pm, Luke Bergen wrote: > > I pronounce {er} like in "bett*er*". I pronounce {eir} like in "*air*". > > The two do not sound alike, and I don't have Luke's problem with thinki= ng it > > sounds too "Englishy" to pronounce {er} like that. > > The only issue is that it's not how lojban is pronounced. =A0I imagine th= at > some of our ponjbope'o had some trouble learning how/when/where to use "l= " > vs "r" but at the end of they day they will/should because that's how loj= ban > is pronounced. =A0If you can't pronounce "er" as "e" followed by "r" then > practice. > > > =A0And no, its not just "some people" who have a problem pronouncing "e= r" > > >> =A0and "eir" differently, its everyone from what I can see. I've yet t= o > > >> =A0see how anyone "could" pronounce them differently. If anyone would > > like to prove me wrong I'm all ears. > > http://cinch.fm/lbergen/276687 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.