Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyOuF-0008S2-Gg; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:03:14 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf7594890fxd.16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qtlWiW2Z3qpEV8mDEWpL0XSHb3GGF5fRr1fBCR+//Xo=; b=437mSzS5pWVztaTlUiz2XMt24kjZEOyjNMgeBYUm9hBu9q1VxlELzh4Pp2KIy5zNyJ PxhsaDwXS4C8QKhTch2r4m1ML/KNagdtvgDihDTDMljWom06pMHiclTbWGapRgINwuxg TlwQ8lWiTOeYetlZfvtOE4/x7dOWen1/uH3I0= Received: by 10.223.17.132 with SMTP id s4mr475148faa.12.1314712980029; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.39.211 with SMTP id h19ls168948bke.2.gmail; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.208 with SMTP id y16mr39033bks.11.1314712978584; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.208 with SMTP id y16mr39032bks.11.1314712978540; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f48.google.com (mail-fx0-f48.google.com [209.85.161.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t20si2696832fab.2.2011.08.30.07.02.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.48; Received: by fxg7 with SMTP id 7so8024773fxg.35 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.22.14 with SMTP id l14mr5438335fab.100.1314712977323; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.41.68 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:02:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D382F29DCA9@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:02:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bc2efeb79d04abb9779e Content-Length: 2840 --00151747bc2efeb79d04abb9779e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > It sounds like this might be a more generic problem than just "er". Do you > have trouble hearing a different between "ar" and "air" as well? I have no trouble distinguishing between {ar} as in "f*ar*" and {air} as in "f*ir*e". > Does "Vi" just tend to sound like "V" lengthened? Is this just a generic > issue in linguistics in general? > I think I'd be willing to place money on that. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00151747bc2efeb79d04abb9779e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
It sounds like this might be a more generic problem than just "er"= ;. =A0Do you have trouble hearing a different between "ar" and &q= uot;air" as well?

I have no trouble distinguishin= g between {ar} as in "far" and {air} as in "fire".
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Does "Vi" just tend to sound like "V" lengthene= d? =A0Is this just a generic issue in linguistics in general?=A0

I think I'd be willing to=A0 place money on= that.

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