Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyZiP-00032A-UT; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:56 -0700 Received: by ywa6 with SMTP id 6sf214805ywa.16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jjpg1Bj197ZKiXEl0cI+YSYbI6Y/jM14c7usHqAAHoU=; b=qkUI+iRTwD5n+FwA3o2R/poOtK0wndV7bDNcM1Eh2S+WdTsHfy/oLAqS6tLKT5sioG LEk9AG0heF2UyLxK0gd4G/p0h1gihsoly44tORRMDPd+0a1jh4DeCwuQp0LD0UZHleFd gG4InG42pvSi0pn+QgVLkBV1o3i2AEeECgVWQ= Received: by 10.147.59.4 with SMTP id m4mr1005956yak.11.1314754530799; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.181.40 with SMTP id i40ls2301107anp.0.gmail; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.136 with SMTP id g8mr30263610yhn.4.1314754530238; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.109.2 with SMTP id h2msybc; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.111.2 with SMTP id o2mr1218950agm.50.1314739414185; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by r8g2000prd.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D382F29DCA9@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <4882a06e-2e00-4240-94f2-10f89a34325a@r8g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r" From: Viral Lamb To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: jms1992@comcast.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1258 Nah, "Vi" doesn't make every "V" sound with it just sound like a lengthening. This is just a problem with the letter 'e' right next to 'r' causing this problem. On Aug 30, 7:02=A0am, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Luke Bergen wrot= e: > > It sounds like this might be a more generic problem than just "er". =A0= Do you > > have trouble hearing a different between "ar" and "air" as well? > > I have no trouble distinguishing between {ar} as in "f*ar*" and {air} as = in > "f*ir*e". > > > Does "Vi" just tend to sound like "V" lengthened? =A0Is this just a gen= eric > > issue in linguistics in general? > > I think I'd be willing to =A0place money on that. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.