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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::632]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bs17-20020ac86f11000000b0040fd9cedc86si1140140qtb.5.2023.08.14.08.58.01 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of larrysulky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::632 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::632; Received: by mail-pl1-x632.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1bdcb800594so9405115ad.1 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:22c7:b0:1bd:f401:e68e with SMTP id y7-20020a17090322c700b001bdf401e68emr621197plg.3.1692028679200; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:57:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Larry Sulky Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:57:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lojban gismu semantic roles and valency slots To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006025970602e42045" X-Original-Sender: larrysulky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b="DqUy/6Cv"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of larrysulky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::632 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=larrysulky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- --0000000000006025970602e42045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello! I have a question about semantic roles and where they fit in gismu valence slots; specifically, what are the criteria that determine which semantic roles typically go in which slots? For example: - The gismu "xebni" ("hates") has the experiencer in slot 1. - The gismu "rigni" ("disgusts") has the experiencer in slot 2. Why the difference? Thank you for any insight you can provide. Cheers! -- Larry Sulky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban-beginners/CAOFVC%2BnVkiuxd3MJ%3DHbB363dxa9kusu8UdpSxF-%3Dk7xmwriFqw%40mail.gmail.com. --0000000000006025970602e42045 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I have a= question about semantic roles and where they fit in gismu valence slots; s= pecifically, what are the criteria that determine which semantic roles typi= cally go in which slots? For example:
  • = The gismu "xebni" ("hates") has the experiencer in slot= 1.
  • The gismu "rigni" ("disgus= ts") has the experiencer in slot 2.
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Thank you for any insight you can provide.

= Cheers!
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