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[75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f7si5241946qct.0.2011.09.22.10.53.36; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=clOQl2Kon9ihL0vqe5S6shCOWnQ8eDPHG/StQ1omz74= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=eBgtuWxHw9AA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=I1R_OG3WoPHyBpCN-k4A:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=lHP-1ClfWywA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:54535] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C4/5A-15370-F167B7E4; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:53:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB5017949 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:53:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Several beginner's questions Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:53:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <1676644.1911.1316264965696.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqap15> In-Reply-To: <1676644.1911.1316264965696.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqap15> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201109221353.19179.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2327 On Saturday 17 September 2011 09:09:25 gleki wrote: > I got several questions when reading the grammar and trying to translate > something. > So I marked them with numbers. Hope you'll answer at least on some of them. > > 1. How to say "trace, trail" and correspondingly "fingerprint" ? For "fingerprint" I'd say "degba'a". For "trace" or "trail", maybe "klaba'a". > 2. What is the word "parcatu" mentioned at > http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/drbible/drbible_3.html#papipamoi-p >agbu ? I was about to leave, so I gave a quick answer. It means one of the 54 sections that the Torah is divided into, read one each week, except for a few doublings up. (The Hebrew calendar is lunisolar and has some years with 13 months.) The title of each is taken from the first few words. The ones in Lojban, with the Hebrew originals, are: krasi - bere'shit "in beginning" (also the title of the book no,ax - noach "Noah" 6:9 ko klama - lekh lkha "go ye" 12:1 jarco - vayyera' "he showed" 18:1 la .sarat. pu nanca - chayey sarah "Lives of Sarah" 23:1 dzecitri - toldot "generations" 25:19 cliva - vayetse' "he left" 28:10 lidne benji - vayishlach "he sent" 32:4 xabju - vayeshev "he dwelt" 37:1 co'u nanca - miqets "at the end of" 41:1 In the webpage, they appear piled up from "no,ax" to "lidne benji", because the text between them hasn't been translated. They should be converted to USFM heading markup. > 3. OK, I use "xu" when putting questions. But imagine that I haven't got a > reply to my question. How to cancel my question and go on speaking ? I'm not sure without seeing the context, but you can say "xunai". > 5. How to say "merry-go-round", "Ferris wheel" and "swing" ? I suggest > "zdipincarcukla", "zdirajycarcukla" and "zdislita'o" respectively. Those sound good, but a swing seat is sometimes a plastic strap instead of a board. How about "zdidadysli"? Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.