Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:50619) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R6oHs-0000UK-N7; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:46:26 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf3651353fxg.16 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-virus-scanned:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=aX4DO+UxGe/bEBFHuUi30YBWgEy0+nLzuM+Z6NZuRjc=; b=bVA++Wz4KgqoWymuUk/KPPJ2kYMtuCSrthBCnFjc0h7dPzWgn7ZCusXDUf4YDAX27S Ct+gjKJSafeR4TuH4gq0DKptQJ8rSDfiB2jAsGUsCcj7WcLSn5aqDqHIguReAeQ1JJmE RgDy4+PKB0OSap2tlfD7J6OOofA0OEPEZe2vc= Received: by 10.223.10.152 with SMTP id p24mr942115fap.27.1316717159294; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.2.69 with SMTP id 5ls4075267bki.1.gmail; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.0.79 with SMTP id 15mr599554bka.6.1316717157467; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.0.79 with SMTP id 15mr599553bka.6.1316717157446; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (mail.wybt.net. [195.191.196.3]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2si1534030bkv.2.2011.09.22.11.45.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) client-ip=195.191.196.3; Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E184C49042 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:37:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.wybt.net Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wybt.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uhnTbDv2nlOU for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:d552:24:216:eaff:feb3:4a04] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:d552:24:216:eaff:feb3:4a04]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59B2E480EC for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7B8261.6080805@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:45:53 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Icedove/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Several beginner's questions References: <1676644.1911.1316264965696.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqap15> <4E78E3A2.4060900@perpetuum-immobile.de> <9333940.56.1316673623756.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqih9> In-Reply-To: <9333940.56.1316673623756.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqih9> X-Original-Sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) smtp.mail=timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 859 On 22.09.2011 08:40, gleki wrote: > Your explanation is'nt enough for me. How can software determine what > is the sense if not applying strict rules ? "Sense" is not a term of > logic. Is there some lack of logic in logical language here I fear you've misunderstood me. The program would determine what's going on by applying the strict rule "repeat the meaning of the previous sentence, unchanged", or with {ra'o} added: "repeat the sentence while re-evaluating each word". mu'o mi'e timos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.