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(Thanks to all of you for helping me !) REFRAIN What about this version of the refrain ? .i fe lo klina krasi ku fi lo melbi balvi ku mi fi lo darbalvi ku co'a klama vi "fi" two times. Is it ok ? "mi co'a klama vi" - "I'm starting going somewhere here". Is it ok ? SECOND VERSE I meant tutra of course. So that the voice is calling me into paradise LANDS. That's why I used territories - tutra. Is it wrong ? Should I use reisku instead of cpedu ? Then here is my suggestion "The voice is asking 'What have you done for the future ?'" .i lo voksa ku noi junri reisku lu do fi lo balvi zmadu ku pu gunka ma As the next sentence starts with .i then li'u can be omitted, right ? Or I have another version. "The voice is asking what I've done for the future" .i lo voksa ku noi junri reisku lo nu mi pu gunka ma lo balvi zmadu ku THIRD VERSE If pa'o is incorrect then re'o should be okay. If klama itself denotes motion then mo'i is superfluos, isn't it ? Anyway I'd like to know how to say "a path with no direction spots" "lo ke no farna barna ke'e pluta ku" ? Can I use "bo" instead of "ke ... ke'e" here ? My suggestion for now is .i da voksa .ije sutra klama fa mi fo lo ke no barna ke'e pluta ku But I'd prefer sumtcita instead of place tags that are difficult to memorize. I'd prefer more natlang-like but valid ways that are alternative to x1 - x5... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/M-q09LUMO8IJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1013_1491305.1316882634623 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mi ckire ro do lo nu sidju be mi .ui      -   &nbs= p;any mistakes ?
(Thanks to all of you for helping me !) 

REFRAIN
What about this version of the ref= rain ?
.i fe lo klina krasi
ku fi lo melbi balvi
<= div>ku mi fi lo darbalvi
ku co'a klama vi

"fi" two times. Is it ok ?
"mi co'a klama vi" - "I'm starting g= oing somewhere here". Is it ok ?


SE= COND VERSE
I meant tutra of course. So that the voice is calling = me into paradise LANDS. That's why I used territories - tutra. Is it wrong = ?
Should I use reisku instead of cpedu ?
Then here is m= y suggestion

"The voice is asking 'What have you d= one for the future ?'"
.i lo voksa ku noi junri reisku lu do
fi lo balvi zmadu ku pu gunka ma

As the next= sentence starts with .i then li'u can be omitted, right ?

Or I have another version.

"The voice is = asking what I've done for the future"
.i lo voksa ku noi junri re= isku lo nu
mi pu gunka ma lo balvi zmadu ku

<= div>THIRD VERSE
If pa'o is incorrect then re'o should be okay. If= klama itself denotes motion then mo'i is superfluos, isn't it ?
=
Anyway I'd like to know how to say "a path with no direction= spots"
"lo ke no farna barna ke'e pluta ku" ?
Can I us= e "bo" instead of "ke ... ke'e" here ?

My suggesti= on for now is

.i da voksa .ije sutra klama fa mi
fo lo ke no barna ke'e pluta ku

But I'd p= refer sumtcita instead of place tags that are difficult to memorize.
<= div>I'd prefer more natlang-like but valid ways that are alternative to x1 = - x5...

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