Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:50208) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RG8UN-0005IJ-0B; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:52 -0700 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16sf300740vws.16 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=u34gdWqCYM87QnXDulID5OSCLSpY0V1TbNebszh6ULM=; b=p6Hr63bEHghoBPvAWWJh1NWsRUqkmTZrQfZH76Sq0C5y0JEKSep2WpCsnWt2zoYzQv 6AghZut5ALafIjxnoMn/jRucU6Jf8SqyFQZEY7R9ZJK7wA6VFfZubQnrKg3+K258Y5cE /jrf5IHDk7mQJjK3lKPCHYJDX9jRevs2/cxg4= Received: by 10.220.148.8 with SMTP id n8mr79132vcv.52.1318939768286; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.24.163 with SMTP id v3ls555603vdf.3.gmail; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.240.204 with SMTP id wc12mr1259133vdc.2.1318939767666; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.240.204 with SMTP id wc12mr1259131vdc.2.1318939767659; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i11si695599vdh.2.2011.10.18.05.09.27; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gqMFsD3PqRa+9IMRRYznR/JjFzasGotwKYCDC6iWcAk= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=LCivoncv3d4A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=wY5ICtLN4tadGE9TpkMA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:55025] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8F/9D-02308-67C6D9E4; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:09:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F261F7F0 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:09:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] How to say "face down" or "facing" Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:09:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201110180809.20219.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1150 On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: > I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying face up or > face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or "lying o= n > [your] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban. That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3=20 of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not "zutse"). The directions "anterior" and "posterior" don't match the direction of=20 locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is this=20 expressed in Lojban? Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.