Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:47901) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGcMf-0002sE-0s; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:55 -0700 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf3414078wwg.16 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=u38/aUT/hrn3enetRn5hycwCd+fdVzCFkSOF51N1mM0=; b=wOzMkahyBsSHOd3y8O4AGY7GgJQXJwosVp7e7FHrk235nBbQj8m8MRYxDcmcCxHUYm UbT4+n0yrqE8g3VmV6sJEXR+SrSa2C9eGsCYHxOVub8JuHC98qOIk+2bXrMF0JAEfTVV t/MoCvfciy7oyBUlrepijJoXPN6stgXCYf7UU= Received: by 10.216.175.8 with SMTP id y8mr2706473wel.14.1319054614589; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.2.94 with SMTP id 70ls653572eee.2.gmail; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.5.133 with SMTP id 5mr343949eel.14.1319054613466; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.5.133 with SMTP id 5mr343948eel.14.1319054613441; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com (mail-ey0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4si3702629eew.1.2011.10.19.13.03.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.169; Received: by mail-ey0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 4so2706285eye.14 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.24.35 with SMTP id w35mr941200eew.128.1319054613190; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.28.75 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201110180809.20219.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:03:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] How to say "face down" or "facing" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Fr=F6jd?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6563aaea896ba04afac55d9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 10116 --0016e6563aaea896ba04afac55d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you mean termla? mi vreta fi'o termla lo ckana (that would be something lik= e "I lie facing the bed to the side of something"?) 2011/10/18 Michael Turniansky > Fair point! termla, of course. Thanks for the correction. > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > >> the hell do locks have to do with anything? zo'o >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael Turniansky < >> mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/lo loldi]" >>> But maybe that's just me. >>> --gejyspa >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat wro= te: >>> >>>> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: >>>> > I'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I jus= t >>>> > notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying face u= p >>>> or >>>> > face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back" or >>>> "lying on >>>> > [your] belly". Perhaps that's easier to express in lojban. >>>> >>>> That would be "mi vreta fi le trixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3 >>>> of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not "zutse"). >>>> >>>> The directions "anterior" and "posterior" don't match the direction of >>>> locomotion in humans the same way they do in most mammals. How is this >>>> expressed in Lojban? >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> -- >>>> When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. >>>> J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016e6563aaea896ba04afac55d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you mean termla? mi vreta fi'o termla lo ckana (that would be something= like "I lie facing the bed to the side of something"?)

2011/10/18 Michael Turniansky &l= t;mturniansky@gmail.com>
= =A0 Fair point!=A0 termla, of course.=A0 Thanks for the correction.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
the hell do locks= have to do with anything? zo'o=20


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael Turnian= sky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 I would think you would want "...fi'o telmla lo ckana [/l= o loldi]"=A0 But maybe that's just me.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Tuesday 18 October 2011 05:42:18 Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote:
> I= 'm not proficient enough in lojban to help you with this one. I just> notice that in swedish you almost never say that you're lying fac= e up or
> face down. Instead you say that you're "lying on [your] back&= quot; or "lying on
> [your] belly". Perhaps that's easi= er to express in lojban.

That would be "mi vreta fi le tr= ixe" or "mi vreta fi le crane", but x3
of "vreta" is not defined (x3 of "sanli" is, but not &q= uot;zutse").

The directions "anterior" and "post= erior" don't match the direction of
locomotion in humans the sa= me way they do in most mammals. How is this
expressed in Lojban?

Pierre
--
When a = barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada,= j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.

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