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  Yes, the glosses are often misleading (which is why searching jbovlaste
only by keywords is often difficult).  It should be properly be glossed
"colored".  Another misleading one is "zungi" (should be "remorseful", not
"guilt"), (I see they have fixed cinmo to be "feel", not just "emotion",
another one that used to be bug me) There are others as well, which I can't
think of at the moment.  (And before Robin says, "Why don't you change it,
if it bugs you?",my answer is "I've been given to understand that gismu
keywords were sancrosanct, and not to be touched by mere mortals").  The
reason, as I understand it, is historical, for flashcard applications.  The
glosses were never intended to be stand ins for the full meanings.

              --gejyspa
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Patrick Finneran <sonarman.77@gmail.com>wrote:

> The definition of {skari} is x1 is/appears to be of color/hue x2 as
> perceived/seen by x3 under conditions x4.  The way I read that, x1 is
> a colored object (i.e., an apple), and x2 is the color (i.e., red).
> However, the word is apparently glossed as "color".  I would imagine
> that the way to say "color", as in "favorite color" would be {selska},
> since that fits with how I'm reading the place structure of {skari} in
> the first place.  Am I wrong on this?  Am I right?  This is just one
> of the more confusing gismu I've ran across.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0 Yes, the glosses are often misleading (which is w=
hy searching jbovlaste only by keywords is often difficult).=A0 It should b=
e=A0properly be=A0glossed &quot;colored&quot;.=A0 Another misleading one is=
 &quot;zungi&quot; (should be &quot;remorseful&quot;, not &quot;guilt&quot;=
), (I see they have fixed cinmo to be &quot;feel&quot;, not just &quot;emot=
ion&quot;, another one that used to be bug me) There are others as well, wh=
ich I can&#39;t think of at the moment.=A0 (And before Robin says, &quot;Wh=
y don&#39;t you change it, if it bugs you?&quot;,my answer is &quot;I&#39;v=
e been given to understand that gismu keywords were sancrosanct, and not to=
 be touched by mere mortals&quot;).=A0 The reason, as I understand it, is h=
istorical, for flashcard applications.=A0 The glosses were never intended t=
o be stand ins for the full meanings.</div>

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<div>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Patrick Finner=
an <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sonarman.77@gmail.com">sonarman.=
77@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">The definition of {skari} is x1 =
is/appears to be of color/hue x2 as<br>perceived/seen by x3 under condition=
s x4. =A0The way I read that, x1 is<br>
a colored object (i.e., an apple), and x2 is the color (i.e., red).<br>Howe=
ver, the word is apparently glossed as &quot;color&quot;. =A0I would imagin=
e<br>that the way to say &quot;color&quot;, as in &quot;favorite color&quot=
; would be {selska},<br>
since that fits with how I&#39;m reading the place structure of {skari} in<=
br>the first place. =A0Am I wrong on this? =A0Am I right? =A0This is just o=
ne<br>of the more confusing gismu I&#39;ve ran across.<br><font color=3D"#8=
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