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oooo, just thought of another interesting usage.

A: ti'epei la djim prami la pam
B: ti'enai li'a go'i

A: Did you hear, jim loves pam
B: No, I didn't hear, it knew because it was obvious

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, don't forget about our good friend {pei}. Questions that aren't
> really questions can be expressed like that.  e.g. "mi sruma lo du'u broda
> kei .iepei".  This way you are basically tagging the "lo nu broda kei" with
> a question of "do you agree with it" in stead of a plain ol'
> boolean/fill-in-the-blank question word.  This is useful for other things as
> well e.g. "mi'o citka lo plise .uiro'opei".  You're making a statement while
> simultaniously asking how the listener feels about it.
>  On Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM, "Pierre Abbat" <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:41:52 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
>> > I just found myself, in English, ending a sentence that started with "I
>> > assume" with a question mark.
>> >
>> > I was asking a question, but I had no question words in the sentence.
>> >
>> > {xu mi sruma ko'a} would translate as "Do I assume {ko'a}?", which is
>> not
>> > what I meant.
>> >
>> > Is {pau mi sruma ko'a} grammatical (I expect so)?
>> > Is it a horrible misuse of {pau} (I hope not)?
>> > Would you understand it, and would it offend your lojbanic
>> sensibilities?
>>
>> It is grammatical, and "pau" can be used without a question word, but I'd
>> have
>> to see the sentence in context to judge whether it's right.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
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oooo, just thought of another interesting usage.<div><br></div><div>A: ti&#=
39;epei la djim prami la pam</div><div>B: ti&#39;enai li&#39;a go&#39;i</di=
v><div><br></div><div>A: Did you hear, jim loves pam</div><div>B: No, I did=
n&#39;t hear, it knew because it was obvious<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Luke Bergen=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lukeabergen@gmail.com">lukeabergen=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<p>Also, don&#39;t forget about our good friend {pei}. Questions that aren&=
#39;t really questions can be expressed like that.=A0 e.g. &quot;mi sruma l=
o du&#39;u broda kei .iepei&quot;.=A0 This way you are basically tagging th=
e &quot;lo nu broda kei&quot; with a question of &quot;do you agree with it=
&quot; in stead of a plain ol&#39; boolean/fill-in-the-blank question word.=
=A0 This is useful for other things as well e.g. &quot;mi&#39;o citka lo pl=
ise .uiro&#39;opei&quot;.=A0 You&#39;re making a statement while simultanio=
usly asking how the listener feels about it.</p>

<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM, &quot;Pierre Abbat&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu" target=3D"_blank">phma@phma.opt=
us.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>


On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:41:52 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:<br>
&gt; I just found myself, in English, ending a sentence that started with &=
quot;I<br>
&gt; assume&quot; with a question mark.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I was asking a question, but I had no question words in the sentence.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; {xu mi sruma ko&#39;a} would translate as &quot;Do I assume {ko&#39;a}=
?&quot;, which is not<br>
&gt; what I meant.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is {pau mi sruma ko&#39;a} grammatical (I expect so)?<br>
&gt; Is it a horrible misuse of {pau} (I hope not)?<br>
&gt; Would you understand it, and would it offend your lojbanic sensibiliti=
es?<br>
<br>
It is grammatical, and &quot;pau&quot; can be used without a question word,=
 but I&#39;d have<br>
to see the sentence in context to judge whether it&#39;s right.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
<br>
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