Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:36903) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbypy-000554-8f; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:28 -0800 Received: by vbbfs19 with SMTP id fs19sf1820700vbb.16 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RYUsk7nUea70GJs0TK733UMysJA0BxMnq9kNgwGyixE=; b=4BJFXxLk3fp8PC5QucEOCsBUPOr8Bj0dCgqQ/KwJwcHCI4EIYc+wkKIkbKY0Vt6E5f wq8fcIxYBiLrQn1qmUsN1YjP+OEam/w1vOW2kpOXfhh+9hiu0Mjl9mXK/VmQTUuaudTC DI6yA7PkNhr4H4FVGjSkoE6PNVnQF8lTo+Xv8= Received: by 10.52.92.234 with SMTP id cp10mr1601757vdb.6.1324145890890; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.165.197 with SMTP id za5ls2132816vdb.5.gmail; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.5 with SMTP id ds5mr9553254vdc.5.1324145890303; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.5 with SMTP id ds5mr9553253vdc.5.1324145890294; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ij1si4137258vdb.3.2011.12.17.10.18.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of kdesevis@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.172; Received: by vcbfk13 with SMTP id fk13so2903346vcb.3 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.12 with SMTP id n12mr8858812vdi.5.1324145890202; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.68 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:18:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Curses! From: Anton Golov To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: kdesevis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kdesevis@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kdesevis@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1261 On 17 December 2011 16:55, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I don't believe a word of that. Especially the part about "intellectual > exercise". > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Lee Carlson wrote: >> >> This has been revisited from time-to-time and the outcome is always that >> curses and such are deeply invested in cultural context. As such a language >> that is designed to be culturally neutral does not provide curses outside of >> the cultural context of the particular user. For anyone is raised with >> lojban as their primary language, the concept of cursing, and expletives >> will likely be an intellectual exercise, rather than an emotional outburst. >> >> mi'e brais >> It seems more likely that if people were raised with Lojban as their primary language, they would develop a vocabulary of curses and euphemisms of their own. mi'e jesyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.