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coi ro do.


I wanna say

{Berries are red and green}

I wanna say

{Berries are red and tasty}

and I wanna say

{Berries are red and  parts of plants}

In the first example I mean that some berries are red, some are green but 
they can't be both.

In the second example I mean that some berries are red, some are tasty and 
(may be) some have both properties

In the third example I mean that berries are all red and are all parts of 
plants.

When I try translating all 3 sentences I just come up with the same phrase

{lo jbari cu xunre gi'e crino}.

Can you fix it ?

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<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvet=
ica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">coi ro do.</=
p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helv=
etica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "><br></p><p=
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a, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">I wanna say</p=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">{Berries ar=
e red and green}</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);=
 font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: =
left; ">I wanna say</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 6=
8); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-alig=
n: left; ">{Berries are red and tasty}</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; c=
olor: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 22px; text-align: left; ">and I wanna say</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:=
 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; li=
ne-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">{Berries are red and &nbsp;parts of pl=
ants}</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-famil=
y: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "></p=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">In the firs=
t example I mean that some berries are red, some are green but they can't b=
e both.</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-fam=
ily: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">I=
n the second example I mean that some berries are red, some are tasty and (=
may be) some have both properties</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color:=
 rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
2px; text-align: left; "></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68,=
 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; tex=
t-align: left; "></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68)=
; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align:=
 left; ">In the third example I mean that berries are all red and are all p=
arts of plants.</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); =
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: l=
eft; "></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-fam=
ily: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "><=
/p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "></p><p st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">When I try transl=
ating all 3 sentences I just come up with the same phrase</p><p style=3D"ma=
rgin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">{lo jbari cu xunre gi'e cr=
ino}.</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-famil=
y: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "></p=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; "></p><p styl=
e=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Helvetica, Ar=
ial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: left; ">Can you fix it ?</p=
>

<p></p>

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