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On 24 Gru, 12:10, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Some notes:
> > * shouldn't it be {te tonga} or {se janbe}? The former is easier to
> > fit in the rhythm.
>
> I agree that in lojban the bell and the sound it emits are interconnected.
> But just singing {janbe lo'e} is a bit strange.

What would you achieve by {lo'e} here? I don't get it.

> But if you have any alternative translations please post. I'll accept any
> precious amendment.

I was suggesting just slipping an extra {te}:

.u'i lo janbe ku
te tonga ca lo nu

as it's easier to fit than {lo se janbe}.

> I'm afraid that each verse must begin with ni'o or .i
> Is it so ?

I asked the same thing once and it seems it's accepted to drop {i}/
{ni'o} at the beginnings of song verses.
My thread: https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/browse_thread/thread/2dbdffb929cba23e/

> Any mistakes ?
> Any suggestions for next verses ?

{je} and its friends are deceitful. They bind all the arguments of
connected selbri (I'm not sure what happens when they have different
numbers of arguments). So when you say {janbe je vitno}, it implies
that the sound of bells and the property in which they're eternal is
the same thing, and I doubt you can pass sound as a property.

Also, I suggest changing the second half of the refrain to

u'i se salcarce fi
lo pamei xirma ku

Unless you like it less than your version, of course.

> mu'o mi'e ianek

Don't sign with my name :)

mu'o mi'e ianek

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