Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:61898) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RYIKp-0003JA-PT; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:19:08 -0800 Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26sf442514vcb.16 for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=aFdpw0FbJh8b/DP1QVv5L8TicOvFNV0h05ksyCiBYGk=; b=Kf2XjCeJHo39r4aSbv9L14z59/ovi1+dWS2ilqABU+Bha7Ljk3A4NB/60xRTPoDpFF llLNXg92tMEcjYXVuyu/lSAYDdGihNGrTE2YbpC/aRFvB+wQ2D0vEBgkazAEZTkMrtg5 JDV8n1eLHf4wsF7bPbu6pifDV62g60OSGQqLI= Received: by 10.52.88.193 with SMTP id bi1mr5804417vdb.8.1323267529922; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.155.209 with SMTP id t17ls408263vcw.2.gmail; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.90.36 with SMTP id bt4mr28213482vdb.7.1323267529320; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.90.36 with SMTP id bt4mr28213477vdb.7.1323267529304; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f47.google.com (mail-vw0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8si582631vdu.2.2011.12.07.06.18.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.47; Received: by vbbfc21 with SMTP id fc21so408683vbb.6 for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.150.4 with SMTP id ue4mr3660076obb.74.1323267529134; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.43.104 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EDF3781.20105@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Become a Lojbanist! From: ".arpis." To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0447968504520b04b3813bce X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6547 --f46d0447968504520b04b3813bce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why not shorten it: {lo nu srera na .e lo nu cilre fo ri cu vajni} On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Timo Paulssen < > timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote: > >> On 07.12.2011 10:10, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > ko binxo.e'o lo cmima be lo jbopre >> >> Sounds like you're telling them to get absorbed by the one lojbanic >> person, a >> hivemind maybe? :) >> > > There's no {pa} anywhere in there.... > > >> > Also, I wanted to try this on for size: >> > >> > It doesn't matter if you make mistakes. What matters is if you learn >> > from them. >> > lonu srera na vajni .i se vajni lonu cilre fo lonu srera >> >> >> How about >> >> {lo nu srera na e lo nu cilre fo lo nu srera cu vajni}? this construction >> feels >> good to my brain :) >> > > Yeah, I like that one. It was a bit confusing until I remembered what > {na.e} means. :D > > >> mu'o mi'e timos >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d0447968504520b04b3813bce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not shorten it:

{lo nu srera na .e lo nu cilre fo ri cu vajni}
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Timo Paulssen <timonator@p= erpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
On 07.12.2011 10:10, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> ko binxo.e'o lo cmima be lo jbopre

Sounds like you're telling them to get absorbed =A0by the one loj= banic person, a
hivemind maybe? :)

There's no {pa} anywh= ere in there....
=A0
> Also, I wanted to try this on for size:
>
> It doesn't matter if you make mistakes. What matters is if you lea= rn
> from them.
> lonu srera na vajni .i se vajni lonu cilre fo lonu srera


How about

{lo nu srera na e lo nu cilre fo lo nu srera cu vajni}? this construction f= eels
good to my brain :)

Yeah, I like that one. I= t was a bit confusing until I remembered what {na.e} means. :D
=A0
=
mu'o mi'e timos

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