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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Stephen Pollei
<stephen.pollei@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html#s3
> says "all brivla ... always contain a consonant pair in the first five
> letters" .

That's true of all lujvo, but it's not really necessary for fu'ivla.
There doesn't seem to be any justification for ".a'a'anka" to be valid
but not "pa'a'anka".

> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Exhaustive+list+of+short+fu%27ivla+forms
> lists saiaspa as a fu'ivla even though the "sp" consonant pair isn't
> fully within the first 5 letters. Is it merely good enough to start
> the pair within the first 5?

"saiaspa" would not be accepted by the PEG morphology, but not because
of any 5-letter rule, but because it would break as "sa iaspa". (The
PEG morphology does not require a pause before i/u as semivowels), I
changed the example to "sa'aispa".

That page was done before the Lojban morphology existed, I should
update it. (Not everyone agrees about the PEG's treatment of long
strings of vowels or consonants though.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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