On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:43 AM, kozmikreis = <kozmikrei= s@lojban.org.uk> wrote:

Extending your line of reasoning, = should we immediately cease distributing hard copies of the CLL because the= format isn't compatible with e-readers? :-p

Yes the iBook format is only compatible with a limited selection of devices= , does that somehow invalidate taking advantage of the format in addition t= o the plethora of open formats the new CLL can be transformed into?

kozmikreis

On 28= Jan 2012, at 00:10, Jonathan Jones wrote:

Not to mention the proprietary nature of the format that automatically excl= udes anyone without an iPad, iPod Touch, or iPhone.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:26 PM, kozmikreis &l= t;kozmikreis@= lojban.org.uk> wrote:

Tha= t is true, but is missing the point of the additional richness the propriet= ary iBook format allows for such as interactive multiple-choice questions, = audio clips, video clips, and other learning aids that might be attractive = in an enhanced version of the CLL :-)

kozmikreis

On 27 Jan 2012, at= 21:32, Aaron Hawryluk wrote:

Or, if = there's an html version in existence, it could just be ported to .epub = with Calibre...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II X.

On Jan 27, 2012 6:50 AM, "CosmicRay" &= lt;cr@cosmicray.co.= uk> wrote:

Those were very much my thoughts too - = that porting a regularly updated open source formatted book into a propriet= ary format was going to be awfully tough to keep up with. =A0However, unlik= e apps, I think iBooks are static once published. =A0Authors don't push= out a v1.x update after the fact. =A0With this in mind it's probably s= till worth forking the next stable CLL major version and porting it, perhap= s even embedding an errata section by use of a web view that points back to= the github repo in case of any major boo-boos.

kozmikreis

On 24 Jan 2012, at 02:44, Joshua Proehl wrote:

I was just looking into the idea of creating a CLL iBook as well!=
The problem that I see is that iBooks Author doesn't appear to play ver= y nicely with the idea of streaming data in from other files. Which means t= hat it's not really possible to script "convert the source files i= nto an iBook", but rather each change made to the source files would h= ave to be manually made to the iBook as well. Which is going to rapidly bec= ome painful. Further looking into is required however, as it would be a tru= ly incredible platform to use.

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=97 Richard Bach, 'Jonathan Livingston Seagull,' 1970.

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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:11, kozmikrei= s <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk> wrote:

I look forward to trying that out,= please let us know when it's available. =A0It'll be good when ther= e's finally a Lojban-specific app in the iTunes Store :-)

Regarding my conlanger meet-up app idea, I retain no rights to t= he idea should you or anyone else wants to implement it either solo or as a= collaboration.

On a slightly related note, there&= #39;s now a free iBooks Author app in the Mac App Store for authoring rich = content books for iPad consumption. =A0It looks ideal for creating and shar= ing educational textbooks. =A0The CLL as an iBook would be a good place to = start, once the latest changes to it have been completed - thoughts anyone?=

kozmikreis

On 22 Jan 2012, at 09= :13, aryrain laubels wrote:

I have written a Lojban Dictionary in pure Objective C, I am currently wait= ing for approval. I finished it a week or so ago but posted it today. But s= ome other applications would be interesting.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:58 AM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@lojban.or= g.uk> wrote:

[repost, original seems to have be= en lost to the aether]

I've got an Apple iOS Develo= per account and would be happy to have a hand in writing a Lojban app for i= OS (and Android if I can get the damn SDK and toolset stable), it's jus= t I haven't thought of an app idea that has anything better to it than = those that already exist.

My dev language of choice would probably be the JavaScript variant from= Appcelerator, not that it's anything amazing, but it can compile to mu= ltiple platforms and takes away some of the suckage of Objective C.

One idea I had was perhaps a meet-up app for conlangers in general, whe= reby you tick the list of languages you speak or are learning to speak and = perhaps your level of proficiency, and let it run in the background occasio= nally checking your location in to a central server. =A0When someone else w= ith a matching conlang interest is nearby the phone can alert you so you ca= n meet up and say coi. =A0Might be good for finding people to practice with= ?

kozmikreis

On 12 Jan 2012, at 06:27, kalsa wrote:

coi
is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners = ipod app? apps like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thi= nking maybe a more lojban specific app would help for people who are alread= y wanting to learn, getting to =A0look at it on the go, or maybe to hear sp= oken lojban, or maybe just to make it more=A0accessible to a wider=A0variet= y=A0of people. Just a thought.=A0

co'o
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