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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Translation: If "every rule has at least one
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What about {lo ka ce'u na selkai da cu kampu lo'i kampu}? I replaced
"rule" with "property" and everything got simpler. Whole thing: {ganai
lo ka ce'u na selkai da cu kampu lo'i kampu gi su'o kampu cu selkai ro
de}.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 7 Sty, 12:37, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At least, I would shorten it and decrease quantity of KOhA1. And fix
> FA in the second part.
>
> {ganai lo du'u fi ro javni fa da nafselte'i ku javni gi fi su'o pa
> javni nafselte'i fa node}
>
> But then, x3 of {nafselte'i} is a set, not a rule. The simplest fix
> that comes to my mind is to use {fe tu'a}, but I'm not sure how to
> tu'a-convert {ro javni}. Also, I'm not sure that du'u-fact fits x1 of
> javni.
>
> We need a lujvo for "x1 is an exception to a rule x2" and I can't
> think of any. {naltinbe} is someone who doesn't obey the rule, so it's
> no good. Our exception is not an element of a set like nafselte'i, but
> a situation in which the rule doesn't apply, I think.
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
>
> On 7 Sty, 00:27, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglove...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I came up with this:
>
> > {ganai lo du'u fi ro da poi javni fa de nafselte'i ku javni gi da'o da
> > poi javni fi node nafselte'i}
>
> > Is there anything wrong with it? Would you say it differently?
>
> > --
> > =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R

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