Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:60903) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsDJH-0007f6-00; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:54 -0800 Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6sf13429114wib.16 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:sender :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mnswwLTGe37yi+WK7rtqbvq9svdBbLpjPcNBGKrP0hE=; b=tyioTWI74D7CuqdkEjLcOl90/Pyv5WxK+2uWtjQdiTQb/GuC6ptkiwFREaMLtxyK2H sKIklIKTDm6y4re8ZGM6y6kZ3ypAuBjj3ILY+43Cs+q11JC6pYQW5juSLZU2Fxf5pet0 VLG6dCiSKAwoEBiMLHUDoMjgrsqqmEVrHS3SA= Received: by 10.180.78.97 with SMTP id a1mr3466423wix.0.1328014760314; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.124.11 with SMTP id me11ls1828946wib.0.canary; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.136.37 with SMTP id v37mr1138307wei.1.1328014758646; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.198.134 with SMTP id v6mswen; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.127.3 with SMTP id gy3mr2121837bkc.1.1327960834269; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.127.3 with SMTP id gy3mr2121836bkc.1.1327960834241; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si23089068bka.0.2012.01.30.14.00.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lahg1 with SMTP id g1so2663195lah.29 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 10.152.103.71 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.103.71; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.103.71]) by 10.152.103.71 with SMTP id fu7mr12031713lab.31.1327960833922 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.103.71 with SMTP id fu7mr9873764lab.31.1327960833845; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.112.99.74 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <242187F9-47CB-4C7C-BCA5-8E11638CB452@cosmicray.co.uk> References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <57CDF052-0498-43F6-9B02-80622D00E054@lojban.org.uk> <796CDD9E-0B54-45CA-B1FA-55A25259411E@lojban.org.uk> <6DC8CD59-4380-46DE-8223-65FCA6B99131@lojban.org.uk> <4E295493-4756-49B0-80B5-8BA6AC86E133@lojban.org.uk> <242187F9-47CB-4C7C-BCA5-8E11638CB452@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:00:33 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] iOS/Android app? From: aryrain laubels To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: arran4@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aryrain@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0408d579c6e79904b7c5f989 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5857 --f46d0408d579c6e79904b7c5f989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me know if it works or if there is any problems: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lojban-dictionary/id497206602?ls=1&mt=8 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM, CosmicRay wrote: > I'd like to see an enhanced version (see my message of a few minutes ago), > but preferably not at the cost of other formats losing out, we'd want to > retain maximum compatibility and accessibility across all formats. > > You are correct the CLL can be exported to PDF which can be read by iPads > etc. The best case I can see for using the iBooks format is not so much > the special features but being able to publish it to and therefore the > visibility and searchability of the CLL within the iTunes and iBooks > stores. This allows for the less technically adept to find and download > the content as well as share bookmarks across devices and whatever else > that a PDF alone doesn't. > > The same should be done for other open and closed book stores in my > opinion :-) > > kozmikreis > > > > On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:34, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > I was addressing specifically the things you were talking about /adding > to/ the proposed iBook (the "interactive multiple-choice questions, audio > clips, video clips, and other learning aids") that would /not/ be available > in any other format. > > > > iPads can read pdfs. The CLL can be exported to pdf (IIRC). If you're > not wanting to use the "special" featuresof iBooks, there's no need to make > an iBook CLL. If you are, then you're making something that will /not/ be > available by any other means. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d0408d579c6e79904b7c5f989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI it is up in the app store. 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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Cosmi= cRay <cr@cosmicr= ay.co.uk> wrote:
I'd like to see an enhanced version (see my message of a few minutes ag= o), but preferably not at the cost of other formats losing out, we'd wa= nt to retain maximum compatibility and accessibility across all formats.
You are correct the CLL can be exported to PDF which can be read by iPads e= tc. =A0The best case I can see for using the iBooks format is not so much t= he special features but being able to publish it to and therefore the visib= ility and searchability of the CLL within the iTunes and iBooks stores. =A0= This allows for the less technically adept to find and download the content= as well as share bookmarks across devices and whatever else that a PDF alo= ne doesn't.

The same should be done for other open and closed book stores in my opinion= :-)

kozmikreis



On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:34, Jonathan Jones wrote:

> I was addressing specifically the things you were talking about /addin= g to/ the proposed iBook (the "interactive multiple-choice questions, = audio clips, video clips, and other learning aids") that would /not/ b= e available in any other format.
>
> iPads can read pdfs. The CLL can be exported to pdf (IIRC). If you'= ;re not wanting to use the "special" featuresof iBooks, there'= ;s no need to make an iBook CLL. If you are, then you're making somethi= ng that will /not/ be available by any other means.

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