Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:56834) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsDJH-0007f5-0F; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:53 -0800 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13sf11862637wer.16 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=C0argRDYqkoKOEskjvhNsIY6wyHDbWN8qvWkA/nAHM0=; b=go6KFtH7oPljIQTQ+0mqQkqvi//bHrPj4xHX+8uj6XhFF/yDu/7c68UsJhrBmpmdFy 7pkuRUNjoMDAqE1XbCo6zDkRffQGJDKBfA+5S/aXgv5zHjgvFvkvhxLWVBJ1BN6XsCE/ XmFsiECiUX/y5j1QAW32ir+Afn1JE+oItfip0= Received: by 10.216.134.79 with SMTP id r57mr924770wei.32.1328014760401; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.20.238 with SMTP id q14ls3919119wie.2.gmail; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.75.179 with SMTP id d19mr3404218wiw.2.1328014758935; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.206.152 with SMTP id l24msweo; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr2181597bkt.3.1327978975232; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr2181596bkt.3.1327978975208; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k19si13679149bko.1.2012.01.30.19.02.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lahg1 with SMTP id g1so2772694lah.29 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.108.49 with SMTP id hh17mr10369683lab.0.1327978974819; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.112.99.74 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <57CDF052-0498-43F6-9B02-80622D00E054@lojban.org.uk> <796CDD9E-0B54-45CA-B1FA-55A25259411E@lojban.org.uk> <6DC8CD59-4380-46DE-8223-65FCA6B99131@lojban.org.uk> <4E295493-4756-49B0-80B5-8BA6AC86E133@lojban.org.uk> <242187F9-47CB-4C7C-BCA5-8E11638CB452@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:02:54 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] iOS/Android app? From: aryrain laubels To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: arran4@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aryrain@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fbc1c10354b04b7ca330a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6855 --bcaec54fbc1c10354b04b7ca330a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Having read the rest of the discussion, oops.. A bit late. Btw, isn't the real problem with the iBook app the contract that you have to "accept" to post books to the app. Particularly if the LLG decides to sell the book? On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:00 AM, aryrain laubels wrote: > FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me > know if it works or if there is any problems: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lojban-dictionary/id497206602?ls=1&mt=8 > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM, CosmicRay wrote: > >> I'd like to see an enhanced version (see my message of a few minutes >> ago), but preferably not at the cost of other formats losing out, we'd want >> to retain maximum compatibility and accessibility across all formats. >> >> You are correct the CLL can be exported to PDF which can be read by iPads >> etc. The best case I can see for using the iBooks format is not so much >> the special features but being able to publish it to and therefore the >> visibility and searchability of the CLL within the iTunes and iBooks >> stores. This allows for the less technically adept to find and download >> the content as well as share bookmarks across devices and whatever else >> that a PDF alone doesn't. >> >> The same should be done for other open and closed book stores in my >> opinion :-) >> >> kozmikreis >> >> >> >> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:34, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >> > I was addressing specifically the things you were talking about /adding >> to/ the proposed iBook (the "interactive multiple-choice questions, audio >> clips, video clips, and other learning aids") that would /not/ be available >> in any other format. >> > >> > iPads can read pdfs. The CLL can be exported to pdf (IIRC). If you're >> not wanting to use the "special" featuresof iBooks, there's no need to make >> an iBook CLL. If you are, then you're making something that will /not/ be >> available by any other means. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec54fbc1c10354b04b7ca330a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having read the rest of the discussion, oops.. A bit late. Btw, isn't t= he real problem with the iBook app the contract that you have to "acce= pt" to post books to the app. Particularly if the LLG decides to sell = the book?

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:00 AM, aryrain lau= bels <aryrain@gma= il.com> wrote:
FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me= know if it works or if there is any problems:

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Cosmi= cRay <cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:
I'd like to see an enhanced version (see my message of a few minutes ag= o), but preferably not at the cost of other formats losing out, we'd wa= nt to retain maximum compatibility and accessibility across all formats.
You are correct the CLL can be exported to PDF which can be read by iPads e= tc. =A0The best case I can see for using the iBooks format is not so much t= he special features but being able to publish it to and therefore the visib= ility and searchability of the CLL within the iTunes and iBooks stores. =A0= This allows for the less technically adept to find and download the content= as well as share bookmarks across devices and whatever else that a PDF alo= ne doesn't.

The same should be done for other open and closed book stores in my opinion= :-)

kozmikreis



On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:34, Jonathan Jones wrote:

> I was addressing specifically the things you were talking about /addin= g to/ the proposed iBook (the "interactive multiple-choice questions, = audio clips, video clips, and other learning aids") that would /not/ b= e available in any other format.
>
> iPads can read pdfs. The CLL can be exported to pdf (IIRC). If you'= ;re not wanting to use the "special" featuresof iBooks, there'= ;s no need to make an iBook CLL. If you are, then you're making somethi= ng that will /not/ be available by any other means.

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