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[212.227.17.10]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y2si1128427vdt.3.2012.02.02.14.32.19; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.10; Received: from [192.168.0.7] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Li1j8-1SNW7c0FhC-00mXEQ; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:32:18 +0100 From: kozmikreis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] iOS/Android app? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:32:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <57CDF052-0498-43F6-9B02-80622D00E054@lojban.org.uk> <796CDD9E-0B54-45CA-B1FA-55A25259411E@lojban.org.uk> <6DC8CD59-4380-46DE-8223-65FCA6B99131@lojban.org.uk> <4E295493-4756-49B0-80B5-8BA6AC86E133@lojban.org.uk> <242187F9-47CB-4C7C-BCA5-8E11638CB452@cosmicray.co.uk> <2A91DFF9-E6FD-4977-ABC5-FF2311EEEAED@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:MpnVhvgyp+P3hEuu0M3k3Shp7WOkFEeBM/7LBtFZKqa vXxTcaqa+a2gn60YEyIGPgQhdlpU2aQIpj1YqwtCjkuG/HsQyj RQRbrO5uG8dmu3mEDAIE3CR9o67gtdfOyPH3ASZm/h4+leR0hy cYfl4CaVW7FggBbwYJ4O+dEki/UF2mzKq66WuUHKsZRqsNQiIh GbD40/fR8sbfm0rkaTqXHH8LoYuOj3eePya5+SBVzdjXxpd5vy iz92VH+u+X43eO5x43Bg+U5YC/ndUePG9aYbOow2xdm7IDu0AG OkygFkerHSWNu64mj8SB3nmAOHC5TDzBPE7Jkk/GtNsaxZ7Stt ifjxHJT5alXiXU4IgJsMxSwJ45cOuc5/+OkIv/hGKSwlwfbWNf UIuX3lxfq9UpQ== X-Original-Sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) smtp.mail=kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C9EEB44B-4182-45AC-B953-222077ED6D87" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 7851 --Apple-Mail=_C9EEB44B-4182-45AC-B953-222077ED6D87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very quick feedback as I realised I hadn't got round to it: Maybe a help view to explain the search types could be added, or, run all t= he searches by default (if you can get around any speed problems) and group= the results before ordering. For the search button, how about a button below the selector labelled "Sear= ch"? :-p kozmikreis On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryrain laubels wrote: > Lookup just looks for the English word or Lojban word, there is also mean= t to be a lujvo parser there but I don't think it's "ready" for use. (Anyon= e care to help me with Ragel?) > While keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's basicall= y an index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment. > Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text files,= I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however as I= don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling* problems. > I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, but those wo= uld be a simple web lookup. >=20 > I am a little worried about speed, I made the application using the "core= data" system, which is a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras which = I think apple added for speed. However I think it just bloats the sql file = and=20 >=20 > I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some other things like tha= t but I would really like a list of descriptions for the selma'o before I d= o that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but the TXT format is getting = really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to make it human readable. :P = Which will allow us to put more "value add" features like examples and more= gloss words. >=20 > Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for the search button? I= thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I could do. >=20 > * Seems it's apples name for something like the Slackware model package. >=20 > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul wrote: > Wahoo! Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (9A405) on an iPhone 4. >=20 > The "Lookup" and "Keyword" searches are OK (no indication what the differ= ence is) but the "Text search" feature doesn't seem to work, and the search= button being a little arrow in the main screen's title is unintuitive, oth= er than that it's a great start and I like it, thanks :-) >=20 > kozmikreis >=20 > -- > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, aryrain laubels wrote: >=20 >> FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me = know if it works or if there is any problems: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lojban-dictionary/id497206602?ls=3D1&mt= =3D8 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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Very quick feedback a= s I realised I hadn't got round to it:

Maybe a hel= p view to explain the search types could be added, or, run all the searches= by default (if you can get around any speed problems) and group the result= s before ordering.

For the search button, how abou= t a button below the selector labelled "Search"?  :-p

kozmikreis



On 31 = Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryrain laubels wrote:

Lookup just looks for the English wo= rd or Lojban word, there is also meant to be a lujvo parser there but I don= 't think it's "ready" for use. (Anyone care to help me with Ragel?)
Whi= le keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's basically an = index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment.
Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text fil= es, I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however a= s I don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling* proble= ms.
I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, but those= would be a simple web lookup.

I am a little worri= ed about speed, I made the application using the "coredata" system, which i= s a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras which I think apple added f= or speed. However I think it just bloats the sql file and 

I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some oth= er things like that but I would really like a list of descriptions for the = selma'o before I do that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but the TXT = format is getting really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to make it h= uman readable. :P Which will allow us to put more "value add" features like= examples and more gloss words.

Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for th= e search button? I thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I= could do.

* Seems it's apples name for something = like the Slackware model package.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul <mrpauw@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Wahoo!  Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (= 9A405) on an iPhone 4.

The "Lookup" and "Keyword" = searches are OK (no indication what the difference is) but the "Text search= " feature doesn't seem to work, and the search button being a little arrow = in the main screen's title is unintuitive, other than that it's a great sta= rt and I like it, thanks :-)

kozmikreis

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Sent from my iPhone
<= br>On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, aryrain laubels <aryrain@gmail.com> wrote:

FYI it is up in the app= store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me know if it works or if the= re is any problems:
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