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Hmm, I'm not sure.  There might have to still be a "cu" in there, but I'm
not positive.  I think maybe you can't nest PU inside of tanru?  I'll get
back to you in a few minutes.  My disclaimer before I begin to find out
just how wrong I am:  I'm very tired, and it's very late in my time zone.
 Write again soon.

mi'e .tavic.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Klaus F. Abel <kfa@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:07:58 -1000
> Patrick <sonarman.77@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I wouldn't say that "ca" (or any of selma'o PU) can replace "cu"
> > unambiguously.  Take the following sentence:
> >
> > lo ca klama ca pinxe
> >
> > In this case, the first "ca" attaches to the sumti to make it mean
> > something like "the one currently going", where the second "ca" attaches
> to
> > the selbri of the entire bridi, for a total meaning of "the one currently
> > going is currently drinking", possibly alluding to someone drinking while
> > driving or biking.
> >
>
> How do you identify "pinxe" as a selbri in this case at all, i.e. what
> stops one from reading the whole "ca klama ca pinxe" as a tanru (regardless
> of how it would make sense in translation)? Is this really ambiguous, or
> just plain wrong (the selbri reading, I mean)?
>
> Klaus
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Hmm, I&#39;m not sure. =A0There might have to still be a &quot;cu&quot; in =
there, but I&#39;m not positive. =A0I think maybe you can&#39;t nest PU ins=
ide of tanru? =A0I&#39;ll get back to you in a few minutes. =A0My disclaime=
r before I begin to find out just how wrong I am: =A0I&#39;m very tired, an=
d it&#39;s very late in my time zone. =A0Write again soon.<div>
<br></div><div>mi&#39;e .tavic.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, F=
eb 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Klaus F. Abel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:kfa@gmx.net">kfa@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:07:58 -1000<br>
Patrick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sonarman.77@gmail.com">sonarman.77@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Well, I wouldn&#39;t say that &quot;ca&quot; (or any of selma&#39;o PU=
) can replace &quot;cu&quot;<br>
&gt; unambiguously. =A0Take the following sentence:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; lo ca klama ca pinxe<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In this case, the first &quot;ca&quot; attaches to the sumti to make i=
t mean<br>
&gt; something like &quot;the one currently going&quot;, where the second &=
quot;ca&quot; attaches to<br>
&gt; the selbri of the entire bridi, for a total meaning of &quot;the one c=
urrently<br>
&gt; going is currently drinking&quot;, possibly alluding to someone drinki=
ng while<br>
&gt; driving or biking.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>How do you identify &quot;pinxe&quot; as a selbri in this case at all=
, i.e. what stops one from reading the whole &quot;ca klama ca pinxe&quot; =
as a tanru (regardless of how it would make sense in translation)? Is this =
really ambiguous, or just plain wrong (the selbri reading, I mean)?<br>

<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Klaus<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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