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On 3 February 2012 04:56, Aaron Hawryluk <aaron.hawryluk@gmail.com> wrote:
> If it's GPL, definitely. VLC Player was pulled from the App Store
> precisely because App Store terms violate the GPL, even for free
> products.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm. I think that violates the terms of the CLL, which, if I'm not not
>> mistaken, is under the GPL or some similar Copy-Left license.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Aaron Hawryluk <aaron.hawryluk@gmail.com=
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple's iBook Author EULA specifies that any content created in iBook
>>> Author can only be distributed through the Apple App Store (regardless =
of
>>> conversion to pdf or other formats).
>>> If this is a separate branch of the documentation, not intended to be
>>> exported in other formats, then no biggie).
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II X.
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012 3:44 PM, "kozmikreis" <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't find a contract without signing up and I'm not prepared to do
>>>> that just yet. =A0What restrictive terms in particular have you found?=
 =A0Any
>>>> claims they make for exclusive content would be a no-go for example.
>>>>
>>>> kozmikreis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 03:02, aryrain laubels wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Having read the rest of the discussion, oops.. A bit late. Btw, isn'=
t
>>>> > the real problem with the iBook app the contract that you have to "a=
ccept"
>>>> > to post books to the app. Particularly if the LLG decides to sell th=
e book?
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While the CLL isn't GPL as far as I can see, the copyright on it is
owned by the Logical Language Group.  The relevant part of the legal
info reads:

Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
book, either in electronic or in printed form, provided the  copyright
notice and this permission notice are preserved on all copies.

Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this
book, provided that the modifications are clearly marked as such, and
provided that the entire resulting derived work is distributed under
the terms of a permission notice identical to this one.".

Therefore, adding visuals is allowed if they are accompanied by some
disclaimer.  The Apple Author EULA states that in the case of books
provided for free (on the App Store) "may distribute the Work by any
available means;''.  The clause for books that are not free is far
more restrictive ("you may only distribute the Work through Apple"),
and definitely violates the CLL license.

Sources:
http://dag.github.com/cll/1/8/
http://www.geekosystem.com/apples-ibooks-eula/ (same quote in several
other articles; unfortunately, google search mostly gives news results
for this)

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