Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:36021) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RyN2h-0003O4-Fz; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:36:11 -0800 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13sf2917975wer.16 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:35:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vR8gu76YpuKes/GoE2cNcGiGrbEt0RuPNcCNbgmpBOQ=; b=CReODY5WWqlhVLeR7RBsfi0LJl8X4qjhrhmL1Ff/pe6mJWDkKXX3FNcA0h4Q08AQ7Z xXBEO5cuRwmemv6Wlrn5SUJO4nqybxWmGBXSW2wkJ2PeReCVilz3158lR3lzTH1gkHel NoPgfLCZPDrlfZz4pgiDmcM3L7c2tACmKNHTQ= Received: by 10.216.138.34 with SMTP id z34mr538917wei.31.1329482140123; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:35:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.82.70 with SMTP id n48ls4425393wee.6.gmail; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr245486wib.2.1329482138926; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.206.152 with SMTP id l24msweo; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr648770bkc.8.1329481280252; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.129.137 with SMTP id hi9mr648769bkc.8.1329481280231; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f49.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si10699605bkz.0.2012.02.17.04.21.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.49; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f49.google.com with SMTP id g1so4671161lah.36 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.48.69 with SMTP id j5mr5216613lan.30.1329481280053; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.112.99.74 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:21:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <17420344.123.1326349669489.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcb25> <57CDF052-0498-43F6-9B02-80622D00E054@lojban.org.uk> <796CDD9E-0B54-45CA-B1FA-55A25259411E@lojban.org.uk> <6DC8CD59-4380-46DE-8223-65FCA6B99131@lojban.org.uk> <4E295493-4756-49B0-80B5-8BA6AC86E133@lojban.org.uk> <242187F9-47CB-4C7C-BCA5-8E11638CB452@cosmicray.co.uk> <2A91DFF9-E6FD-4977-ABC5-FF2311EEEAED@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:21:19 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] iOS/Android app? From: Arran Ubels To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: arran4@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aryrain@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55239726edfec04b927fb84 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 10771 --bcaec55239726edfec04b927fb84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kozmikreis; Yeah I am not sure how to explain them. I don't want to run them all as it's a bit slow which is probably due to my use of "CoreData." How would you order the data and group them? I have changed the button from a (>) button to an actual button which says search, but I have kept it where it is, so it doesn't get covered by the keyboard. I am not sure if there is a good existing design pattern for what I have done. I am waiting for "approval." I have also fixed the Text Search feature, and it's now capable of running on older devices which can't upgrade to iOS 4.3. (I am not too sure how far back I can go before I loose the features I am using.) On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:32 AM, kozmikreis wrote: > Very quick feedback as I realised I hadn't got round to it: > > Maybe a help view to explain the search types could be added, or, run all > the searches by default (if you can get around any speed problems) and > group the results before ordering. > > For the search button, how about a button below the selector labelled > "Search"? :-p > > kozmikreis > > > > On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryrain laubels wrote: > > Lookup just looks for the English word or Lojban word, there is also meant > to be a lujvo parser there but I don't think it's "ready" for use. (Anyone > care to help me with Ragel?) > While keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's basically > an index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment. > Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text files, > I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however as I > don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling* problems. > I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, but those > would be a simple web lookup. > > I am a little worried about speed, I made the application using the > "coredata" system, which is a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras > which I think apple added for speed. However I think it just bloats the sql > file and > > I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some other things like that > but I would really like a list of descriptions for the selma'o before I do > that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but the TXT format is getting > really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to make it human readable. :P > Which will allow us to put more "value add" features like examples and more > gloss words. > > Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for the search button? I > thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I could do. > > * Seems it's apples name for something like the Slackware model package. > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul wrote: > >> Wahoo! Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (9A405) on an iPhone 4. >> >> The "Lookup" and "Keyword" searches are OK (no indication what the >> difference is) but the "Text search" feature doesn't seem to work, and the >> search button being a little arrow in the main screen's title is >> unintuitive, other than that it's a great start and I like it, thanks :-) >> >> kozmikreis >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, aryrain laubels wrote: >> >> FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me >> know if it works or if there is any problems: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lojban-dictionary/id497206602?ls=1&mt=8 >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Yeah I am not sure how to explain them. I do= n't want to run them all as it's a bit slow which is probably due t= o my use of "CoreData."

How would you or= der the data and group them?

I have changed the button from a (>) button to an ac= tual button which says search, but I have kept it where it is, so it doesn&= #39;t get covered by the keyboard. I am not sure if there is a good existin= g design pattern for what I have done. I am waiting for "approval.&quo= t;

I have also fixed the Text Search feature, and it's= now capable of running on older devices which can't upgrade to iOS 4.3= . (I am not too sure how far back I can go before I loose the features I am= using.)

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:32 AM, kozmikreis <= span dir=3D"ltr"><kozmikreis= @lojban.org.uk> wrote:
Very quick feedback as I realised = I hadn't got round to it:

Maybe a help view to= explain the search types could be added, or, run all the searches by defau= lt (if you can get around any speed problems) and group the results before = ordering.

For the search button, how about a button below the sel= ector labelled "Search"? =A0:-p

kozmikreis



On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryra= in laubels wrote:

Lookup just looks for = the English word or Lojban word, there is also meant to be a lujvo parser t= here but I don't think it's "ready" for use. (Anyone care= to help me with Ragel?)
While keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's basica= lly an index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment.
Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text fil= es, I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however a= s I don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling= * problems.
I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, b= ut those would be a simple web lookup.

I am a litt= le worried about speed, I made the application using the "coredata&quo= t; system, which is a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras which I t= hink apple added for speed. However I think it just bloats the sql file and= =A0

I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some= other things like that but I would really like a list of descriptions for = the selma'o before I do that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but = the TXT format is getting really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to m= ake it human readable. :P Which will allow us to put more "value add&q= uot; features like examples and more gloss words.

Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for th= e search button? I thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I= could do.

* Seems it's apples name for someth= ing like the Slackware model package.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul <mrpau= w@gmail.com> wrote:
Wahoo! =A0Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (9A4= 05) on an iPhone 4.

The "Lookup" and &qu= ot;Keyword" searches are OK (no indication what the difference is) but= the "Text search" feature doesn't seem to work, and the sear= ch button being a little arrow in the main screen's title is unintuitiv= e, other than that it's a great start and I like it, thanks :-)

kozmikreis

--
Sent from = my iPhone

On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, a= ryrain laubels <a= ryrain@gmail.com> wrote:

FYI it is up in the app= store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me know if it works or if= there is any problems:
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