Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:46521) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RzBUK-0003I3-OZ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:00 -0800 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10sf5344145vbb.16 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WuJk+uqD9cMWVjmjjJ4n0tIqy6TwSHVOvApisgJpo7s=; b=KTU+eoQqYrZ6wTT9Ti44oQJ5G0kIx3hD2advCB7MXa9rPzodorU7oKWHkOOy4rTWZR ycu8G5mB89XKWKeETtPXgFq6b6NZul8dhMGgd3id6aU5vVRxCShMS++DAqLQ0S8YNY0G WdjD/LH3b2Yp41HDdalTzQyDc+ZjX6I22sOeM= Received: by 10.50.214.39 with SMTP id nx7mr1905379igc.1.1329676049586; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.35 with SMTP id s35ls7715862ibg.8.gmail; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.10.137 with SMTP id i9mr2316741igb.2.1329676048794; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.10.137 with SMTP id i9mr2316739igb.2.1329676048777; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f175.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg1si1394873igb.0.2012.02.19.10.27.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so6699269obh.6 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 10.60.3.104 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.3.104; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.3.104]) by 10.60.3.104 with SMTP id b8mr7653776oeb.13.1329676048532 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.3.104 with SMTP id b8mr6554447oeb.13.1329676048475; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.226.98 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20175076.35.1329644296130.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt17> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:27:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about 'cu' From: Lee Carlson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lorddraqo@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lorddraqo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fad88925c904b955541c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 8995 --e89a8fb1fad88925c904b955541c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my spiritual path's "blessed be," which I render as *iure'e le cevni cu kurji ko* by which I mean "with spiritual love I direct you to act in such a way that your perception of god (the divine) cares about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal? mi'o mi'e brais On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent mislead you. It DOES > serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as well. Its purpose is to > mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main relationship. Can it be > worked around? Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, it means properly closing off > all open structures before then. > > So, what would you use in its place? That depnds entirely on what > needs terminating. If nothing needs closing, the you don't need it. > > --gejyspa > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson wrote: > >> And here I was told that without cu one of my favorite statements made no >> sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a purpose, or not? If not, then >> what would I use in it's place? >> >> mi'o brais >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar wrote: >> >>> The short answer: >>> It's never necessary. NEVER. >>> It's a handy shortcut sometimes. >>> Learn to do without it at first or your grammar will suck. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/CuzwB6IY5XEJ. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e89a8fb1fad88925c904b955541c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my spiritual path's "ble= ssed be," which I render as iure'e le cevni cu kurji ko by = which I mean "with spiritual love I direct you to act in such a way th= at your perception of god (the divine) cares about/for you." Have I ac= complished my goal?

mi'o mi'e brais

On Sun, Feb 1= 9, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=
=A0 Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent m= islead you. =A0It DOES serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as wel= l. =A0Its purpose is to mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main = relationship. =A0Can it be worked around? =A0Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, = it means properly closing off all open structures before then. =A0

=A0 =A0So, what would you use in its place? =A0That depnds e= ntirely on what needs terminating. =A0If nothing needs closing, the you don= 't need it.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --= gejyspa


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson= <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
And here I was told that without cu one of m= y favorite statements made no sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a = purpose, or not? If not, then what would I use in it's place?

mi'o brais


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com= > wrote:
The short answer:
It's never necessary. NEVER.
It's a= handy shortcut sometimes.
Learn to do without it at first or you= r grammar will suck.

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