Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:39693) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RzCYQ-0003aH-UD; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:36:16 -0800 Received: by bkty15 with SMTP id y15sf5878513bkt.16 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:36:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dOuEP7irZ5YUA9NYxg2BNHO5oCGtXctRfGrEgoyo1UY=; b=TvB+5+D4JvnAogy2r0bKD7V3R/f+iw5bR3jKHe9qbPum+wg0MJhktXO6C9/wRCbz4/ gzs9DfUb76ruauUieZE2XehIxJqKqQTTo2oRFQltE3q0rgYVGYZasDr4geLIbYxliZwH GRReg6QJqfvgR/s9GMlyZ7H5e53pfDzW5eoI4= Received: by 10.204.136.195 with SMTP id s3mr1348933bkt.14.1329680146394; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.181.202 with SMTP id bz10ls7061372bkb.0.gmail; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.156.135 with SMTP id x7mr1275214bkw.2.1329680145456; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.156.135 with SMTP id x7mr1275213bkw.2.1329680145425; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si21011292bko.3.2012.02.19.11.35.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so8189346lag.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.112.86.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.86.198; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.86.198]) by 10.112.86.198 with SMTP id r6mr6670626lbz.53.1329680145101 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.198 with SMTP id r6mr5597712lbz.53.1329680145035; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:35:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20175076.35.1329644296130.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt17> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about 'cu' From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554d6dcb5b34404b956489e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 11173 --bcaec554d6dcb5b34404b956489e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In the interest of shortness and similarity, I suggest {prami ko}, which is short for {pisu'o cevni cu prami re'e ko}. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Lee Carlson wrote: > My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my spiritual path's "blessed > be," which I render as *iure'e le cevni cu kurji ko* by which I mean > "with spiritual love I direct you to act in such a way that your perception > of god (the divine) cares about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal? > > mi'o mi'e brais > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent mislead you. It DOES >> serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as well. Its purpose is to >> mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main relationship. Can it be >> worked around? Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, it means properly closing off >> all open structures before then. >> >> So, what would you use in its place? That depnds entirely on what >> needs terminating. If nothing needs closing, the you don't need it. >> >> --gejyspa >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson wrote: >> >>> And here I was told that without cu one of my favorite statements made >>> no sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a purpose, or not? If not, >>> then what would I use in it's place? >>> >>> mi'o brais >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar wrote: >>> >>>> The short answer: >>>> It's never necessary. NEVER. >>>> It's a handy shortcut sometimes. >>>> Learn to do without it at first or your grammar will suck. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/CuzwB6IY5XEJ. >>>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec554d6dcb5b34404b956489e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the interest of shortness and similarity, I suggest {prami ko}, which is= short for {pisu'o cevni cu prami re'e ko}.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Lee Carlson = <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my= spiritual path's "blessed be," which I render as iure'= ;e le cevni cu kurji ko by which I mean "with spiritual love I dir= ect you to act in such a way that your perception of god (the divine) cares= about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal?

mi'o mi'e brais


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent m= islead you. =A0It DOES serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as wel= l. =A0Its purpose is to mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main = relationship. =A0Can it be worked around? =A0Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, = it means properly closing off all open structures before then. =A0

=A0 =A0So, what would you use in its place? =A0That depnds e= ntirely on what needs terminating. =A0If nothing needs closing, the you don= 't need it.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --= gejyspa


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson= <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
And here I was told that without cu one of m= y favorite statements made no sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a = purpose, or not? If not, then what would I use in it's place?

mi'o brais


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com= > wrote:
The short answer:
It's never necessary. NEVER.
It's a= handy shortcut sometimes.
Learn to do without it at first or you= r grammar will suck.

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