Received: from mail-tul01m020-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:58578) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RzFfe-0004fi-Rw; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:58 -0800 Received: by obcuz6 with SMTP id uz6sf6546613obc.16 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5IPC2OSuqNsDLaW0QTUutB+9nJ6iKP0PZLvkpDKU0HQ=; b=Xku61tmqV5+DKgO2y9cwcjmTePT5CLoBqNn/r4/MfmNTfKkt43QAp3/1pFIK6/ct+l Ah+8NQUZxYz8kFFmsYmwU2o7yTJkDPOYGtAE9EN2Zkw365y2BVNRID1HepOzJMyc0BuI GnHwq+vJzn3sfTxB/DWxZVVuYBt3k610vjBDE= Received: by 10.50.191.196 with SMTP id ha4mr332134igc.3.1329692127867; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.66.195 with SMTP id o3ls8270823ibi.4.gmail; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.53.73 with SMTP id vp9mr16524icb.0.1329692127101; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.53.73 with SMTP id vp9mr16523icb.0.1329692127079; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dm4si2077154igb.2.2012.02.19.14.55.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.182; Received: by mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com with SMTP id wo16so7943083obc.41 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 10.182.36.106 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.182.36.106; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.182.36.106]) by 10.182.36.106 with SMTP id p10mr11386894obj.55.1329692126979 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.36.106 with SMTP id p10mr9678283obj.55.1329692126916; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.226.98 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20175076.35.1329644296130.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt17> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:55:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about 'cu' From: Lee Carlson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lorddraqo@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lorddraqo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04447eebe2afb004b9591270 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 13437 --f46d04447eebe2afb004b9591270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My thanks for your input as I am still learning the intricacies of lojban, and can use all of the assistance I receive. I shall endeavor to get this right as I continue to grow. mi'o mi'e brais On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > In the interest of shortness and similarity, I suggest {prami ko}, which > is short for {pisu'o cevni cu prami re'e ko}. > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Lee Carlson wrote: > >> My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my spiritual path's "blessed >> be," which I render as *iure'e le cevni cu kurji ko* by which I mean >> "with spiritual love I direct you to act in such a way that your perception >> of god (the divine) cares about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal? >> >> mi'o mi'e brais >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky < >> mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent mislead you. It DOES >>> serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as well. Its purpose is to >>> mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main relationship. Can it be >>> worked around? Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, it means properly closing off >>> all open structures before then. >>> >>> So, what would you use in its place? That depnds entirely on what >>> needs terminating. If nothing needs closing, the you don't need it. >>> >>> --gejyspa >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson wrote: >>> >>>> And here I was told that without cu one of my favorite statements made >>>> no sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a purpose, or not? If not, >>>> then what would I use in it's place? >>>> >>>> mi'o brais >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar wrote: >>>> >>>>> The short answer: >>>>> It's never necessary. NEVER. >>>>> It's a handy shortcut sometimes. >>>>> Learn to do without it at first or your grammar will suck. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/CuzwB6IY5XEJ. >>>>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d04447eebe2afb004b9591270 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thanks for your input as I am still learning the intricacies of lojban, = and can use all of the assistance I receive. I shall endeavor to get this r= ight as I continue to grow.

mi'o mi'e brais

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
=
In the interest of shortness and similarity, I suggest {prami ko}, which is= short for {pisu'o cevni cu prami re'e ko}.
<= br>
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Lee Car= lson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my= spiritual path's "blessed be," which I render as iure'= ;e le cevni cu kurji ko by which I mean "with spiritual love I dir= ect you to act in such a way that your perception of god (the divine) cares= about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal?

mi'o mi'e brais


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturnian= sky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 Yes, don't let lindar and his dialect contingent m= islead you. =A0It DOES serve a purpose, but it can be worked around, as wel= l. =A0Its purpose is to mark which word/phrase in a bridi that is the main = relationship. =A0Can it be worked around? =A0Yes, but as Pierre mentioned, = it means properly closing off all open structures before then. =A0

=A0 =A0So, what would you use in its place? =A0That depnds e= ntirely on what needs terminating. =A0If nothing needs closing, the you don= 't need it.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --= gejyspa


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Lee Carlson= <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
And here I was told that without cu one of m= y favorite statements made no sense at all. So what is it: does cu serve a = purpose, or not? If not, then what would I use in it's place?

mi'o brais


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com= > wrote:
The short answer:
It's never necessary. NEVER.
It's a= handy shortcut sometimes.
Learn to do without it at first or you= r grammar will suck.

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