Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:39990) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RzHcw-0004za-AB; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:01:15 -0800 Received: by yenr5 with SMTP id r5sf5851594yen.16 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:01:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=08mheUTzBBClpd83h7cAgGSe/EgAoc9xfrrf2gqIs0E=; b=qPlekCAYvQPmvHDLHhB3izzHEe6Ck7kJ9gNvMt+ayvs6ldupGN6xktBWikOTp/EHdR J0nA+HX0d7ZeBKbD6yQ7pXW/fwzBXHLRoPSnuc/jGWHWRZizUP0nQPPUH1PMj/EY4g+F l0g6f7RaldicMMUpKC0r8pCGRWK3tI0LUfe10= Received: by 10.236.156.73 with SMTP id l49mr1151996yhk.15.1329699647379; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:00:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.138.40 with SMTP id q40ls5247746ann.0.gmail; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.199 with SMTP id c47mr28542746yhj.5.1329699646672; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.199 with SMTP id c47mr28542745yhj.5.1329699646664; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z63si10020769yhg.5.2012.02.19.17.00.45; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18AC713FFD for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:00:45 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about 'cu' Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:00:41 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201202192000.42049.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1565 On Sunday, February 19, 2012 13:27:28 Lee Carlson wrote: > My thanks. I created a farewell, based on my spiritual path's "blessed be= ," > which I render as *iure'e le cevni cu kurji ko* by which I mean "with > spiritual love I direct you to act in such a way that your perception of > god (the divine) cares about/for you." Have I accomplished my goal? I like the Lojban better than the English, which means, I think, that you'r= e=20 thinking in Lojban. It's really hard to render the Lojban into any natlang = I=20 know; the closest I can come offhand is Spanish "te amo y Dios cu=EDdete" (= I=20 attend a Hispanic church, so much of my thinking about God is in Spanish). Adding to what Lindar said, the fa'orma'o is, as far as I know, a part of= =20 speech unique to the Loglanic languages, so you need lots of practice to ge= t=20 it right. "cu" has an equivalent in Tok Pisin; attitudinals exist (though n= ot=20 the same list) in some language spoken in the NE India/Burma area. Terminat= ors=20 are what make it possible to say lots of grammatical constructs unambiguous= ly. Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.