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From: Arran Ubels To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: arran4@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aryrain@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aryrain@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55239729e8a0b04b9937738 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 11660 --bcaec55239729e8a0b04b9937738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 New version is in markets. I suggest that you create a page on the wiki where you list all the problems and suggestions with it, and next time I am free I can work my way down the list. :) On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Arran Ubels wrote: > Kozmikreis; > > Yeah I am not sure how to explain them. I don't want to run them all as > it's a bit slow which is probably due to my use of "CoreData." > > How would you order the data and group them? > > I have changed the button from a (>) button to an actual button which says > search, but I have kept it where it is, so it doesn't get covered by the > keyboard. I am not sure if there is a good existing design pattern for what > I have done. I am waiting for "approval." > > I have also fixed the Text Search feature, and it's now capable of running > on older devices which can't upgrade to iOS 4.3. (I am not too sure how far > back I can go before I loose the features I am using.) > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:32 AM, kozmikreis wrote: > >> Very quick feedback as I realised I hadn't got round to it: >> >> Maybe a help view to explain the search types could be added, or, run all >> the searches by default (if you can get around any speed problems) and >> group the results before ordering. >> >> For the search button, how about a button below the selector labelled >> "Search"? :-p >> >> kozmikreis >> >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryrain laubels wrote: >> >> Lookup just looks for the English word or Lojban word, there is also >> meant to be a lujvo parser there but I don't think it's "ready" for use. >> (Anyone care to help me with Ragel?) >> While keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's >> basically an index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment. >> Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text files, >> I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however as I >> don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling* problems. >> I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, but those >> would be a simple web lookup. >> >> I am a little worried about speed, I made the application using the >> "coredata" system, which is a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras >> which I think apple added for speed. However I think it just bloats the sql >> file and >> >> I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some other things like >> that but I would really like a list of descriptions for the selma'o before >> I do that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but the TXT format is >> getting really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to make it human >> readable. :P Which will allow us to put more "value add" features like >> examples and more gloss words. >> >> Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for the search button? I >> thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I could do. >> >> * Seems it's apples name for something like the Slackware model package. >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul wrote: >> >>> Wahoo! Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (9A405) on an iPhone 4. >>> >>> The "Lookup" and "Keyword" searches are OK (no indication what the >>> difference is) but the "Text search" feature doesn't seem to work, and the >>> search button being a little arrow in the main screen's title is >>> unintuitive, other than that it's a great start and I like it, thanks :-) >>> >>> kozmikreis >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, aryrain laubels wrote: >>> >>> FYI it is up in the app store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me >>> know if it works or if there is any problems: >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lojban-dictionary/id497206602?ls=1&mt=8 >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec55239729e8a0b04b9937738 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New version is in markets. I suggest that you create a page on the wiki whe= re you list all the problems and suggestions with it, and next time I am fr= ee I can work my way down the list. :)

On= Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Arran Ubels <aryrain@gmail.com> wrote:
Kozmikreis;

Yeah I am not= sure how to explain them. I don't want to run them all as it's a b= it slow which is probably due to my use of "CoreData."

How would you order the data and group them?

I have changed the button from a (>) button to an ac= tual button which says search, but I have kept it where it is, so it doesn&= #39;t get covered by the keyboard. I am not sure if there is a good existin= g design pattern for what I have done. I am waiting for "approval.&quo= t;

I have also fixed the Text Search feature, and it's= now capable of running on older devices which can't upgrade to iOS 4.3= . (I am not too sure how far back I can go before I loose the features I am= using.)


On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:32 AM, kozmikreis <= span dir=3D"ltr"><kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk> wrote:
Very quick feedback as I realised = I hadn't got round to it:

Maybe a help view to= explain the search types could be added, or, run all the searches by defau= lt (if you can get around any speed problems) and group the results before = ordering.

For the search button, how about a button below the sel= ector labelled "Search"? =A0:-p

kozmikreis



On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:05, aryra= in laubels wrote:

Lookup just looks for = the English word or Lojban word, there is also meant to be a lujvo parser t= here but I don't think it's "ready" for use. (Anyone care= to help me with Ragel?)
While keyword search does a search on most of the contents, it's basica= lly an index search, it only supports and (implicitly) at the moment.
Text search is basically a simple grep on the rasfi and gismu text fil= es, I included it as people like to search for exact phrases ect, however a= s I don't have an iPhone I couldn't test if there were any bundling= * problems.
I wouldn't mind adding a jbovlaste and jbofi'e option to it, b= ut those would be a simple web lookup.

I am a litt= le worried about speed, I made the application using the "coredata&quo= t; system, which is a wrapper around Sqlite, with a bit of extras which I t= hink apple added for speed. However I think it just bloats the sql file and= =A0

I am thinking of adding a Selma'o explorer and some= other things like that but I would really like a list of descriptions for = the selma'o before I do that. Also, I have said this before on g+, but = the TXT format is getting really tiresome. :P I say XML with compilers to m= ake it human readable. :P Which will allow us to put more "value add&q= uot; features like examples and more gloss words.

Do you have a suggestion as to what I should use for th= e search button? I thought that as well but was sort of at a loss on what I= could do.

* Seems it's apples name for someth= ing like the Slackware model package.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Paul <mrpau= w@gmail.com> wrote:
Wahoo! =A0Just installed it on iOS 5.0.1 (9A4= 05) on an iPhone 4.

The "Lookup" and &qu= ot;Keyword" searches are OK (no indication what the difference is) but= the "Text search" feature doesn't seem to work, and the sear= ch button being a little arrow in the main screen's title is unintuitiv= e, other than that it's a great start and I like it, thanks :-)

kozmikreis

--
Sent from = my iPhone

On 30 Jan 2012, at 22:00, a= ryrain laubels <a= ryrain@gmail.com> wrote:

FYI it is up in the app= store. I don't actually own an iPhone so let me know if it works or if= there is any problems:
=

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