Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:41785) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0VMc-000875-IL; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:53:27 -0800 Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2sf974865ggn.16 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:53:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=zlq93UoXpxkq62GRz1H7bMaxiAdK3cQeEAjMJBW63ag=; b=Vkdden0w/1MSFDEsn0CDB4+OyEqvIMXF9ep6ZHh2m6EeutU38DZIH0nuogZPVMZp5X Q50FSCaMHjMatd4Ym+ZTqQiN6pWy+BkI9iBXNV3JcPWiaUb1B7BKb8uzbU9PhuKql/0C DQ8R3PSlnU7wE5rEOGaBx3fFXUnvAdfJWeg4g= Received: by 10.52.35.82 with SMTP id f18mr90387vdj.10.1329990774695; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.166.66 with SMTP id ze2ls195626vdb.4.gmail; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.38.231 with SMTP id j7mr88584vdk.5.1329990773858; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:52:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:52:53 -0800 (PST) From: gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <785169.5280.1329990773298.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkz21> Subject: [lojban-beginners] web-page as {seltidysfe} ({se tcidu sefta}) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5279_7183294.1329990773297" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3104 ------=_Part_5279_7183294.1329990773297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban. What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for. Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the most general definition of any written text or media embedded into it. A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps). On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of paper with a written text. Note that {kibypapri} has two noticeable bugs. 1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical 2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in general One more note. {ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages which can be single. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/UKcg7jG6-p4J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_5279_7183294.1329990773297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban.What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for.<= div>Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the m= ost general definition of any written text or media embedded into it.=
A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain = not only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps).<= /div>
On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a s= heet of paper with a written text.

Note that {kiby= papri} has two noticeable bugs.
1. it references to {papri} that = can be only physical
2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} = but not "page" in general

One more note.
{ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages whic= h can be single.

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