Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:57095) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0Z7m-0003JK-SN; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:54:24 -0800 Received: by yhgg71 with SMTP id g71sf1155011yhg.16 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:54:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcrFioV7tdoYsf7uJkdzajRG7Hhvq1/lDwqm1hXEPkY=; b=7N53wd9O5pIvXyVMSJ3fTiomAcMs15XEEKD2CJuBflyYbWM7lXTxELbiYpeFdILV8E LEsAylcTthG/veZH7xbkMC36d7A2kbIXpAdFJ0AkXnt6D8k6ToR7O5abW94gFt8iUrnl Ju61cNI23bo8+Nc8yJyYJ9PrdpKG6yhppgevU= Received: by 10.229.78.223 with SMTP id m31mr85936qck.9.1330004489892; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:41:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.49.206 with SMTP id w14ls2904321qcf.5.gmail; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.200.197 with SMTP id z45mr1882188yhn.9.1330004488268; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.200.197 with SMTP id z45mr1882187yhn.9.1330004488260; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d68si833459yhe.4.2012.02.23.05.41.27; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E77C21858 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:41:27 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Native lojbanic proverbs (lojbo prije jufra) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:41:24 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <10404621.2709.1329984160142.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201202230841.24903.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1079 By "copy" you mean what? Some ideas are expressed in many languages in=20 different words. English has "Make hay while the sun shines" and "Beat the iron while it's= =20 hot". French and Russian have the latter, "Il faut battre le fer pendant qu= 'il=20 est chaud" and "=D0=9A=D1=83=D0=B9 =D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=BE =D0= =BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8F=D1=87=D0=BE". In a space hab= itat, we could say "ei=20 kavbu lo cmaplini ca lo nu lampagre". For "six of one, half a dozen of the other", my Lojban version is "lo drata= cu=20 muvdu .ijo lo se drata cu klama fu zi'o". Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.