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On Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:41:24 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> By "copy" you mean what? Some ideas are expressed in many languages in=20
> different words.
>
> English has "Make hay while the sun shines" and "Beat the iron while it's=
=20
> hot". French and Russian have the latter, "Il faut battre le fer pendant=
=20
> qu'il=20
> est chaud" and "=EB=D5=CA =D6=C5=CC=C5=DA=CF =D0=CF=CB=C1 =C7=CF=D2=D1=DE=
=CF". In a space habitat, we could say=20
> "ei=20
> kavbu lo cmaplini ca lo nu lampagre".
>
Well, yes. That's what I meant. Let's not copy words, but we may and have=
=20
to copy the meaning. Cos we might want to translate proverbs that are=20
useful in our lives and therefore already present in most languages.

For "six of one, half a dozen of the other", my Lojban version is "lo drata=
=20
> cu=20
> muvdu .ijo lo se drata cu klama fu zi'o".
>
> Pierre
> --=20
> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
> .icu'u la ma'atman.
>
>

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<br><br>On Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:41:24 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote=
:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">By "copy" you mean what? Some=
 ideas are expressed in many languages in <br>different words.<p>English ha=
s "Make hay while the sun shines" and "Beat the iron while it's <br>hot". F=
rench and Russian have the latter, "Il faut battre le fer pendant qu'il <br=
>est chaud" and "=EB=D5=CA =D6=C5=CC=C5=DA=CF =D0=CF=CB=C1 =C7=CF=D2=D1=DE=
=CF". In a space habitat, we could say "ei <br>kavbu lo cmaplini ca lo nu l=
ampagre".</p></blockquote><div>Well, yes. That's what I meant. Let's not co=
py words, but we may and have to copy the meaning. Cos we might want to tra=
nslate proverbs that are useful in our lives and therefore already present =
in most languages.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t: 1ex;"><p>For "six of one, half a dozen of the other", my Lojban version =
is "lo drata cu <br>muvdu .ijo lo se drata cu klama fu zi'o".</p><p>Pierre<=
br>-- <br>.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do<br>.ibabo damba do .ibabo d=
o jinga<br>.icu'u la ma'atman.<br></p><p></p><p></p></blockquote>

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