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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I misinterpreted the capital I (i) as a lowercase l (L), too. You want EIbryxam, then. Or Eibryxam, or EIbry'am, or Eibry'em. In all cases, the 'e' has to be capitalized to be stressed. Just capitalizing the 'i' makes an extra syllable: e-I-bry-xam. 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In all cases, the 'e' has to be capitalized to be stressed. Just capitalizing the 'i' makes an extra syllable: e-I-bry-xam. stevo On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > wait. what? I said eibryxam (with e and i capitalized) not elbryxam (wit= h > only e capitalized). does that change it? I say the name Abraham with 3 > syllables. > On Mar 3, 2012 7:07 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Luke Bergen >> wrote: >> > How would you say {la .EIbryxam.} with the >> > proper pronunciation without capitals (or maybe accent marks or >> something)? >> >> The normal stress for ".elbryxam." is on the "e", the penultimate >> syllable not counting y-syllables or consonantal syllables, just like >> for the lujvo "melbyxra". >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --bcaec554d9e23b9f8f04ba601c10 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I misinterpreted the capita= l I (i) as a lowercase l (L), too.=A0

You want EIbryxam, then. Or Eibryxam, or EIbry'am, or = Eibry'em. In all cases, the 'e' has to be capitalized to be str= essed. Just capitalizing the 'i' makes an extra syllable: e-I-bry-x= am.

= stevo

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com= > wrote:

wait. what?=A0 I said eibryxam (with e an= d i capitalized) not elbryxam (with only e capitalized).=A0 does that chang= e it?=A0 I say the name Abraham with 3 syllables.=A0

On Mar 3, 2012 7:07 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&q= uot; <jjllambi= as@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0How would you say {la .EIbryxam.} with the
> proper=A0pronunciation=A0without capitals (or maybe accent marks or so= mething)?

The normal stress for ".elbryxam." is on the "e", the p= enultimate
syllable not counting y-syllables or consonantal syllables, just like
for the lujvo "melbyxra".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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