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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Just having trouble putting a sentence together in general... Think I figured it out To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1955 I'd say {mi catlu lo jurme sepi'o lo cmactatci} if you want to emphasize the looking portion (possibly use {lanli} instead of {catlu}) and {mi pilno lo cmactatci lo nu catlu lo jurme} if you want to emphasize the use of the microscope. Alternatively, {mi pilno lo cmactatci tu'a lo jurme} if you are okay with losing some precision (it's pretty clear what you're using a microscope to do to bacteria anyway. You could even say {cmactatci mi lo jurme} if you wanted to be particularly terse. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, RexScientiarum wrote: > I am a little confused as to how I can make this sentence: > > I use a microscope to look at the microbe. > > > I guess this is the best way to say this: > > .i mi cu zgana lo jurme le cmactatci > > At first I used pilno to say that I would use the microscope more like > I had originally envisioned the sentence in English but then I > couldn't figure out I could use that to say I 'used' the microscope to > 'look' at the microbe. =A0There aren't enough sumti x spaces for that or > any direct way to relate that x1(I) am using x2(microscope) in manner > x3(to look at)....... a microbe..... right? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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