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Okay thanks.

.i mi cu pilno lo cmactatci lo nu catlu lo jurme

was very similar to what I came up with first but I didn't know to use
nu (so it was wrong). Wow, abstractors are super useful then it seems.
I'll have to read up on them, but ".i mi cu zgana lo jurme le
cmactatci" is still acceptable right?

On Mar 5, 7:45=A0pm, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd say {mi catlu lo jurme sepi'o lo cmactatci} if you want to
> emphasize the looking portion (possibly use {lanli} instead of
> {catlu}) and {mi pilno lo cmactatci lo nu catlu lo jurme} if you want
> to emphasize the use of the microscope. Alternatively, {mi pilno lo
> cmactatci tu'a lo jurme} if you are okay with losing some precision
> (it's pretty clear what you're using a microscope to do to bacteria
> anyway.
>
> You could even say {cmactatci mi lo jurme} if you wanted to be
> particularly terse.
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, RexScientiarum <amt2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am a little confused as to how I can make this sentence:
>
> > I use a microscope to look at the microbe.
>
> > I guess this is the best way to say this:
>
> > .i mi cu zgana lo jurme le cmactatci
>
> > At first I used pilno to say that I would use the microscope more like
> > I had originally envisioned the sentence in English but then I
> > couldn't figure out I could use that to say I 'used' the microscope to
> > 'look' at the microbe. =A0There aren't enough sumti x spaces for that o=
r
> > any direct way to relate that x1(I) am using x2(microscope) in manner
> > x3(to look at)....... a microbe..... right?
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